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That's another big difference with the US. Honors are about GPA here, nothing else. The whole A-level system was confusing for a long time because of this kind

That's another big difference with the US. Honors are about GPA here, nothing else. The whole A-level system was confusing for a long time because of this kind of conflation of terms between the systems.

sarchertech 4y ago
At many schools in the US there is an honors program that is separate from Latin honors. Such programs generally require you to complete x honors classes. Honors classes are either regular classes with additional components or they’re just harder. For example when I took honors biology long ago, we had an additional lab section where grad students lectured us on their research, and we had extra assignments. So I graduated with “Honors” based on completing the honors program, and also cum laude based on my GPA.
- solarmist 4y ago
  Oh yeah, but that’s still different than an extra year. More like high school advanced placement programs. It’s the same material, but at a more rigorous level. Their system is closer to combined bachelors and master’s program.
smcl 4y ago
Honours are grading-related (in Scotland at least) as well. After three years study if you pass but not very well you'll be able to graduate with, say, a "BSc". If you have good enough grades you can do a fourth year and shoot for a "BSc (Hons)". The qualification you get after the fourth year depends on your average grades, either: - honours of the first class (aka a "first") - honours of the second class (two levels: upper and middle, aka a "2:1" or a "2:2") - honours of the third class (aka a "third") - fail, in which case you get an "ordinary" degree So when this person is reporting that you needed "first class honours" to go directly to a PHd, they're saying you needed to sit that final fourth year and finish with an average grade of (I think) an "A"
- xupybd 4y ago
  Yes exactly that. I managed first class honours and the only benefit is that I'd be able to start a PHD without finishing a masters. We had a fourth year as our engineering degree was part of an internal agreement such that it would be globally recognized. The states requires four years so we had to match that. However, if I'd studied in the USA I think I'd have had more than two elective papers over the four years.
idontpost 4y ago
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sarchertech 4y ago

At many schools in the US there is an honors program that is separate from Latin honors. Such programs generally require you to complete x honors classes. Honors classes are either regular classes with additional components or they’re just harder. For example when I took honors biology long ago, we had an additional lab section where grad students lectured us on their research, and we had extra assignments. So I graduated with “Honors” based on completing the honors program, and also cum laude based on my GPA.

solarmist 4y ago
Oh yeah, but that’s still different than an extra year. More like high school advanced placement programs. It’s the same material, but at a more rigorous level. Their system is closer to combined bachelors and master’s program.

smcl 4y ago

Honours are grading-related (in Scotland at least) as well. After three years study if you pass but not very well you'll be able to graduate with, say, a "BSc". If you have good enough grades you can do a fourth year and shoot for a "BSc (Hons)". The qualification you get after the fourth year depends on your average grades, either: - honours of the first class (aka a "first") - honours of the second class (two levels: upper and middle, aka a "2:1" or a "2:2") - honours of the third class (aka a "third") - fail, in which case you get an "ordinary" degree So when this person is reporting that you needed "first class honours" to go directly to a PHd, they're saying you needed to sit that final fourth year and finish with an average grade of (I think) an "A"

xupybd 4y ago
Yes exactly that. I managed first class honours and the only benefit is that I'd be able to start a PHD without finishing a masters. We had a fourth year as our engineering degree was part of an internal agreement such that it would be globally recognized. The states requires four years so we had to match that. However, if I'd studied in the USA I think I'd have had more than two elective papers over the four years.

idontpost 4y ago

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