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It's not a panic when it's clear as day this app is used for surveillance purposes

by TurkishPoptart 4y ago

tsimionescu 4y ago
So is Google Search, but few are calling for banning that.
- xeromal 4y ago
  My parents peeping into my personal info and my neighbors down the street peeping into my personal info are two different things.
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    Sure, but neither Google nor Facebook are your parents. And a US citizen has much more to lose if their private data is being shared with the US government than with the Chinese government.
- mikrotikker 4y ago
  Oh you're right.. Fuck it, I may as well just install a camera in my bathroom and live stream it. /s
- throwaway29812 4y ago
  Did Google turn over data to a government to help track that person down, arrest them, and intern them in a political reeducation camps ?
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    Almost certainly. They definitely turned over data to the US government to help them locate and connect people of interest (see Edward Snowden's revelations), some of which was very likely used to incarcerate people. Whether you consider incarceration equivalent to re-education is debatable. I find it quite likely that they also did this for other governments with less scruples about human rights. Either way, pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps in the USA because of data shared with any government by either Google or Tik Tok or anyone else.
    - throwaway29812 4y ago
      If you are referencing criminals charged through the justice system, that is decidedly not the same as hunting down ethnic minorities based on their race and religion without charge or trial. You must know this. > They definitely turned over data to the US government to help them locate and connect people of interest Citation? > Whether you consider incarceration equivalent to re-education is debatable. It's not, see above. > I find it quite likely that they also did this for other governments with less scruples about human rights. Citation? > pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps You can be very sure because political re-education camps don't exist. There is a lot to criticize about the American justice system, this isn't applicable.

It's not a panic when it's clear as day this app is used for surveillance purposes

tsimionescu 4y ago

So is Google Search, but few are calling for banning that.

xeromal 4y ago
My parents peeping into my personal info and my neighbors down the street peeping into my personal info are two different things.
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  Sure, but neither Google nor Facebook are your parents. And a US citizen has much more to lose if their private data is being shared with the US government than with the Chinese government.
mikrotikker 4y ago
Oh you're right.. Fuck it, I may as well just install a camera in my bathroom and live stream it. /s
throwaway29812 4y ago
Did Google turn over data to a government to help track that person down, arrest them, and intern them in a political reeducation camps ?
- tsimionescu 4y ago
  Almost certainly. They definitely turned over data to the US government to help them locate and connect people of interest (see Edward Snowden's revelations), some of which was very likely used to incarcerate people. Whether you consider incarceration equivalent to re-education is debatable. I find it quite likely that they also did this for other governments with less scruples about human rights. Either way, pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps in the USA because of data shared with any government by either Google or Tik Tok or anyone else.
  - throwaway29812 4y ago
    If you are referencing criminals charged through the justice system, that is decidedly not the same as hunting down ethnic minorities based on their race and religion without charge or trial. You must know this. > They definitely turned over data to the US government to help them locate and connect people of interest Citation? > Whether you consider incarceration equivalent to re-education is debatable. It's not, see above. > I find it quite likely that they also did this for other governments with less scruples about human rights. Citation? > pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps You can be very sure because political re-education camps don't exist. There is a lot to criticize about the American justice system, this isn't applicable.