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It is not true, but they do make it very hard in some places and as a group utilities do kind of hate the idea. Almost all states require net metering, which wh

It is not true, but they do make it very hard in some places and as a group utilities do kind of hate the idea. Almost all states require net metering, which what allows people to sell their solar to the grid, and there is some federal regulation too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005). Despite these requirements most utilities make it pretty hard to set up.

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
I opted NOT to sell my excess to PNM (New Mexico), because the agreement allowed them to claim my 6.7kW array as part of their own progress towards renewable conversion. What I didn't understand was that I ended up with an even better deal! I get back the excess kW/h on a 1:1 basis. This is much better "pricing" than I would have received if I had sold it for cash. Granted this model only works if there's a part of the year when you produce more than you need and another part of the year where you produce less. Since we heat more or less exclusively with electric air source heat pumps, but need no heat or a/c during summer, this works extremely well for us.
- burkaman 4y ago
  What's wrong with them counting your solar as part of their conversion? Nothing wrong with you declining if the price isn't high enough, but if they're paying someone for solar power, whether it's an individual or a company, I think they should count that as part of their renewable portfolio.
  - Nition 4y ago
    Even if there's nothing morally wrong with it, not agreeing will make their numbers look worse, with might encourage them to build more of their own renewable generation. So it's also a way of encouraging more renewables.
throwaway892238 4y ago
florida's been trying to kill net metering for years: https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/12/20/floridas-largest-electric-utility-conspired-against-solar-power-documents-show/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/12/20/fl... https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/power-bills-could-rise-even-with-solar-if-desantis-signs-florida-net-metering-bill-into-law/ https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/power-bills-could-rise-ev... they even allegedly derailed a democratic election using a fake candidate: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-florida-power-and-light-senate-ghost-candidates-20211202-szjhv7ox6vcmphm6pgd437y52i-htmlstory.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-florida-power...

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago

I opted NOT to sell my excess to PNM (New Mexico), because the agreement allowed them to claim my 6.7kW array as part of their own progress towards renewable conversion. What I didn't understand was that I ended up with an even better deal! I get back the excess kW/h on a 1:1 basis. This is much better "pricing" than I would have received if I had sold it for cash. Granted this model only works if there's a part of the year when you produce more than you need and another part of the year where you produce less. Since we heat more or less exclusively with electric air source heat pumps, but need no heat or a/c during summer, this works extremely well for us.

burkaman 4y ago
What's wrong with them counting your solar as part of their conversion? Nothing wrong with you declining if the price isn't high enough, but if they're paying someone for solar power, whether it's an individual or a company, I think they should count that as part of their renewable portfolio.
- Nition 4y ago
  Even if there's nothing morally wrong with it, not agreeing will make their numbers look worse, with might encourage them to build more of their own renewable generation. So it's also a way of encouraging more renewables.

throwaway892238 4y ago

florida's been trying to kill net metering for years: https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/12/20/floridas-largest-electric-utility-conspired-against-solar-power-documents-show/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/12/20/fl... https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/power-bills-could-rise-even-with-solar-if-desantis-signs-florida-net-metering-bill-into-law/ https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/power-bills-could-rise-ev... they even allegedly derailed a democratic election using a fake candidate: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-florida-power-and-light-senate-ghost-candidates-20211202-szjhv7ox6vcmphm6pgd437y52i-htmlstory.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-florida-power...