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That's pretty easy to do; to characterize nationalist censorship in terms of trivialities. I could literally use being "built for advertisers to push products a

That's pretty easy to do; to characterize nationalist censorship in terms of trivialities. I could literally use being "built for advertisers to push products and services through ads and influencers" to ban television, newspapers, and every social network.

rapind 4y ago
> ban ________ television, newspapers, and every social network… ^ “advertiser supported”. For the sake of argument, imagine if advertiser supported content was in fact banned in certain places. Don’t you think that non-advertiser supported models would quickly fill the gap?
- amadeuspagel 4y ago
  People have been lamenting the decline of local news due to craigslist replacing classifieds for a long time.
- renewiltord 4y ago
  Yes, in the ad tech industry we called those models "native advertising".
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
Why isn't UT Austin allowed to block something on the grounds of cyber security? Why does it have to be nationalist censorship?
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  But like... what cybersecurity threat is there to using TikTok while on UT wifi? The concerns with TikTok are always around data collection and propaganda, not it pwning other stuff on the same network with malicious network traffic?
  - switchbak 4y ago
    I'm no security professional, but I am familiar with the ultra crap security standards of many institutions. It's really just removing a drop from the ocean of potential risks, but doesn't seem that outlandish given the nature of TikTok and where it comes from.
    - UncleMeat 4y ago
      But like, what risk? I'm serious. TikTok poses no risk to UT's networks.
      - switchbak 4y ago
        Well, sure, I think you're right: if the Chinese state wants access to UT-Austin's networks, they definitely have that already, and cutting this out doesn't help anything. I suppose they're just going along with their new law in a way that buys some political points. Personally, I'd love it if we banned the damn thing everywhere, but only because I hate the mindless content :)
    - cute_boi 4y ago
      There is no such potential risks. It is all about politics and propaganda.
    - xwolfi 4y ago
      "where it comes from" makes it sound like Xi Jinping commandeered an app where teenagers dance as a trojan horse to befall capitalism... Your fridge was maybe made there too, are you scared a secret radio chip could activate to render your food communist ?
      - Idk__Throwaway 4y ago
        My fridge doesn't curate the thoughts and ideas tens of millions of American youth are exposed to daily
      - doubleg72 4y ago
- SilasX 4y ago
  Coincidentally, in 2005, the same university blocked all emails from a dating site (LonghornSingles) on grounds of spam. The site filed a lawsuit against the block saying they couldn’t block the site entirely since it complied with CAN SPAM. A slashdotter compared the argument to “I have a driver’s license and car insurance, therefore I have the right to park on your lawn”. https://slashdot.org/story/59677 https://slashdot.org/story/59677
hot_gril 4y ago
Football's very rules seem to be designed for ad breaks.

rapind 4y ago

> ban ________ television, newspapers, and every social network… ^ “advertiser supported”. For the sake of argument, imagine if advertiser supported content was in fact banned in certain places. Don’t you think that non-advertiser supported models would quickly fill the gap?

amadeuspagel 4y ago
People have been lamenting the decline of local news due to craigslist replacing classifieds for a long time.
renewiltord 4y ago
Yes, in the ad tech industry we called those models "native advertising".

onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago

Why isn't UT Austin allowed to block something on the grounds of cyber security? Why does it have to be nationalist censorship?

UncleMeat 4y ago
But like... what cybersecurity threat is there to using TikTok while on UT wifi? The concerns with TikTok are always around data collection and propaganda, not it pwning other stuff on the same network with malicious network traffic?
- switchbak 4y ago
  I'm no security professional, but I am familiar with the ultra crap security standards of many institutions. It's really just removing a drop from the ocean of potential risks, but doesn't seem that outlandish given the nature of TikTok and where it comes from.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    But like, what risk? I'm serious. TikTok poses no risk to UT's networks.
    - switchbak 4y ago
      Well, sure, I think you're right: if the Chinese state wants access to UT-Austin's networks, they definitely have that already, and cutting this out doesn't help anything. I suppose they're just going along with their new law in a way that buys some political points. Personally, I'd love it if we banned the damn thing everywhere, but only because I hate the mindless content :)
  - cute_boi 4y ago
    There is no such potential risks. It is all about politics and propaganda.
  - xwolfi 4y ago
    "where it comes from" makes it sound like Xi Jinping commandeered an app where teenagers dance as a trojan horse to befall capitalism... Your fridge was maybe made there too, are you scared a secret radio chip could activate to render your food communist ?
    - Idk__Throwaway 4y ago
      My fridge doesn't curate the thoughts and ideas tens of millions of American youth are exposed to daily
    - doubleg72 4y ago
SilasX 4y ago
Coincidentally, in 2005, the same university blocked all emails from a dating site (LonghornSingles) on grounds of spam. The site filed a lawsuit against the block saying they couldn’t block the site entirely since it complied with CAN SPAM. A slashdotter compared the argument to “I have a driver’s license and car insurance, therefore I have the right to park on your lawn”. https://slashdot.org/story/59677 https://slashdot.org/story/59677

hot_gril 4y ago

Football's very rules seem to be designed for ad breaks.