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How do they do against hypersonic missiles?
by xtian 4y ago
How do they do against hypersonic missiles?
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoChina hasn't seen combat since the Korean war. We've been at war the entire time. How's Russia doing, given their "hypersonic missiles?"
- xtian 4y agoThe US hasn’t been at war with peer militaries, and it’s been generally losing if you haven’t kept up. Russia is winning, but few in the West are willing to admit that yet. Here’s one who is: https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukrai...
- mensetmanusman 4y agoRussia is 10x the size of Ukraine and they will be seeing explosions in Moscow if they don’t end the war in 2023.
- xtian 4y agoAlright.
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoWho are these fabled "peer militaries?" :D
- xtian 4y agoNotice how the US only picks fights with countries where it can trivially establish air superiority and carry out shock and awe bombing runs. How curious. :D
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoYea, unlike China, which picks fights with countries it has no chance of beating :D So much for the wise mandarins.
- benreesman 4y agoYou don’t even need some exotic ramscoop or anything. I think “Donfeng 6” is the IRBM that easily destroys a George Washington class carrier from beyond the effective range of an F18 and costs like 5 million bucks, which is why the PLA has a zillion of them. Sailing a carrier battle group into the Strait with violence on the table would be a very bad call… There’s a reason everyone puts the most powerful weapons on submarines, or so all the squids in my hometown of San Diego tell me.
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoGuess who has really good submarines too :)
- benreesman 4y agoI really don’t know enough about modern submarine warfare to make any sort of prediction myself. My Navy buddies seem pretty confident the Virginia class fast attack boat is the one that goes home after a scrap.
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoI don't pretend to be a military expert, but I know who I'm betting on.
- glogla 4y agoHow does Three Gorges Dam do against a missile?
- xtian 4y agoAre you advocating for attacking civilian targets?
- amalgamated_inc 4y agoNo, of course, an attack by the communist dictatorship on peaceful, free, and independent Taiwan would be terrible. Nobody's advocating that.
- glogla 4y agoDoes the concept of civilian even make sense in totalitarian regime, where everyone serves the state equally? In any case, either might makes right, and China can invade Taiwan and run all the genocides they do because they are big - but them it is also fine for US to naval blockade China into collapse and famine, if it so pleases because might makes right. Or there are universal values and human rights, and the West would be evil for destroying China and causing untold suffering, but then China is also evil for attacking their neighbours and for running bunch of genocides. You can't have it both ways!
- xtian 4y agoI am against the US meddling in affairs on the other side of the world not because I believe in any liberal nonsense about human rights or any of the media lies devoid of hard evidence but because a lot of Americans will die in the process of our country’s defeat and it will speed along the collapse in standard of living which is already underway here.
- SllX 4y agoThat’s a good argument immediately following World War II prior to the decades of global economic integration and ICBM development. Less so today. Now it is very much our business what is going on in Asia, particularly since the risk is the subjugation of our allies by a totalitarian regime. It is better to have a strong and independent Taiwan, a strong Japan and strong Korea and even strong Philippines and Vietnam to counteract a strengthening PLA Navy, but we also want them to not be hostile to the USA, and we also want it to cost the PRC to even think nukes are the easy way to check the ambitions of their immediate neighbors. That does mean keeping our military promises to Taiwan, Korea and Japan. Simply put, there is no World from where we stand today where unchecked-by-us PRC ambition is an acceptable path forward.
- marstall 4y agoYou have to find them first. Not so easy in blue water.