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Why is this good? why are people suddenly down to ban software? I don't use tiktok and never will but seeing all this discussion about how it should be banned i

Why is this good? why are people suddenly down to ban software? I don't use tiktok and never will but seeing all this discussion about how it should be banned is depressing. If US companies want it to be less popular how about they compete and make a better product? Why are so many people carrying water for social media companies? To get ahead of the criticism I'll likely get for this comment: I don't think tiktok/china do anything that US companies and every other social media platform have already been doing for years. Why ban tiktok and not every other social media app?

1MachineElf 4y ago
>why are people suddenly down to ban software? >Why ban tiktok and not every other social media app? If we banned all software that tracks users, capitalizes on their data, and doesn't respect privacy/GDPR/whatever - the world would be a better place.
- rchaud 4y ago
  Seems to me that Google and Apple could simply not provide hardware API access that leaks privacy info. But that would hurt all the other 'legitimate' uses of that information (targeted advertising), and no one wants to be the first person to jump off that gravy train.
- deely3 4y ago
  > better place ..definitely a lot more expensive, but better. Hm. Is it ok if we will actually block poor people from using internet?
pessimizer 4y ago
> If US companies want it to be less popular how about they compete and make a better product? They don't want it to be less popular; the US encourages media monopolies. The larger the better. US government belligerence towards TikTok served the same purpose as US government belligerence towards Twitter and Facebook: leverage in order to be able to censor it and emphasize US narratives. They won, TikTok is fully censoring based on US government "suggestions," and this state/local-level political grandstanding are people jumping into an operation that is already over.
mikrotikker 4y ago
Its not banning software. Its banning a surveillance arm of the Chinese state. Or an attempt to.

1MachineElf 4y ago

>why are people suddenly down to ban software? >Why ban tiktok and not every other social media app? If we banned all software that tracks users, capitalizes on their data, and doesn't respect privacy/GDPR/whatever - the world would be a better place.

rchaud 4y ago
Seems to me that Google and Apple could simply not provide hardware API access that leaks privacy info. But that would hurt all the other 'legitimate' uses of that information (targeted advertising), and no one wants to be the first person to jump off that gravy train.
deely3 4y ago
> better place ..definitely a lot more expensive, but better. Hm. Is it ok if we will actually block poor people from using internet?

pessimizer 4y ago

> If US companies want it to be less popular how about they compete and make a better product? They don't want it to be less popular; the US encourages media monopolies. The larger the better. US government belligerence towards TikTok served the same purpose as US government belligerence towards Twitter and Facebook: leverage in order to be able to censor it and emphasize US narratives. They won, TikTok is fully censoring based on US government "suggestions," and this state/local-level political grandstanding are people jumping into an operation that is already over.

mikrotikker 4y ago

Its not banning software. Its banning a surveillance arm of the Chinese state. Or an attempt to.