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I think that if people don't call fb engineers first rate then they have to refrain from using that label for many very good engineers (I used Google as an exam

I think that if people don't call fb engineers first rate then they have to refrain from using that label for many very good engineers (I used Google as an example in my last comment). Maybe we are using "meaningful contributions as a metric". Here is a page of some of their contributions: http://developers.facebook.com/opensource.php http://developers.facebook.com/opensource.php I am just reluctant to say that engineers at fb are not first-rate. Are we saying that they are second rate? I agree that fb is the toy analog in the web app world but does that mean that the engineers who banged out the PS3/XBox 360/Wii are second-rate?

unalone 18y ago
I am just reluctant to say that engineers at fb are not first-rate. Are we saying that they are second rate? That's exactly the problem that I had with my comment. They're only not first-rate if you expect every engineer to be literally genius. That's too much to expect for any one company. So first-rate is as close to accurate a description as you could get. I've always found it odd that not many hackers that I've met really get into discussing video game mechanics: either hardware or software. It's odd because video games are what got me into programming software, and the only time I've ever felt like making hardware it was designing imaginary game systems.