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Why not? Can we apply the same logic for China's influence in Africa, for example? Does geographic location matter more than, say, trade volume? Given that the

Why not? Can we apply the same logic for China's influence in Africa, for example? Does geographic location matter more than, say, trade volume? Given that there isn't anything between the US and China (or Taiwan) except the ocean does that not give credence to the US being a partner in that area since it's a Pacific nation? If we're talking about the west, US, Japan, South Korea are either close or exceed Taiwan's trade with China, and that only includes western nations that are part of the Pacific Ocean directly (and doesn't include Canada, Australia, or New Zealand either).

xtian 4y ago
> If we're talking about the west, US, Japan, South Korea are either close or exceed Taiwan's trade with China 41% of Taiwan’s exports by dollar value went to China + Hong Kong in 2020 versus 25.4% for US + Japan + RoK. https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn
- ericmay 4y ago
  > The United States is Taiwan’s second largest trading partner, accounting for 12.6 percent of total trade and 10.2 percent of Taiwan imports. China is Taiwan’s largest trading partner, accounting for 25.2 percent of total trade and 21.6 percent of Taiwan’s imports in 2021. In terms of total trade, other major Taiwan trading partners include Japan (10.3 percent), Hong Kong (7.8 percent), and the Republic of Korea (6.1 percent). [1] But let’s assume the numbers you listed are correct (I’m sure trade varies by year and breakdown and I assume good faith). What does it matter? Does China get 41% influence over Taiwan and the US, Japan, and South Korea get 25.4% influence? The whole line of reasoning that started this was nonsense from the start and it doesn’t even include The Jungle [2] that is relations between nation states. [1] https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/taiwan-market-overview https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/taiwan-marke... [2] In international relations might largely makes right. Powerful countries are able to impose their will and influence on other countries. For example, the US imposes its will on China w.r.t Taiwan regardless of the amount of trade that occurs between nations.

xtian 4y ago

> If we're talking about the west, US, Japan, South Korea are either close or exceed Taiwan's trade with China 41% of Taiwan’s exports by dollar value went to China + Hong Kong in 2020 versus 25.4% for US + Japan + RoK. https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn

ericmay 4y ago
> The United States is Taiwan’s second largest trading partner, accounting for 12.6 percent of total trade and 10.2 percent of Taiwan imports. China is Taiwan’s largest trading partner, accounting for 25.2 percent of total trade and 21.6 percent of Taiwan’s imports in 2021. In terms of total trade, other major Taiwan trading partners include Japan (10.3 percent), Hong Kong (7.8 percent), and the Republic of Korea (6.1 percent). [1] But let’s assume the numbers you listed are correct (I’m sure trade varies by year and breakdown and I assume good faith). What does it matter? Does China get 41% influence over Taiwan and the US, Japan, and South Korea get 25.4% influence? The whole line of reasoning that started this was nonsense from the start and it doesn’t even include The Jungle [2] that is relations between nation states. [1] https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/taiwan-market-overview https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/taiwan-marke... [2] In international relations might largely makes right. Powerful countries are able to impose their will and influence on other countries. For example, the US imposes its will on China w.r.t Taiwan regardless of the amount of trade that occurs between nations.