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I don't care about this kind of stuff as much as a lot of people do. Hopefully they also start blocking China from buying up USA farmland and housing.

sdfghjkjhvgcfdx 4y ago
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- seccess 4y ago
  You should. I have no idea to what you're referring.
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- maerF0x0 4y ago
  tell him what?
  - 1MachineElf 4y ago
    If I had to guess, it would probably be some revelation about Bill Gates being the biggest private owner of farmland in the US: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/05/bill-gates-climate-crisis-farmland https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/05/bill-g...
    - TurkishPoptart 4y ago
      I wish he would just grow trees on those properties. For all we know all that land will be used to deploy soylent/fake meat alternative/cricket meat a la "eat the bugs".
rchaud 4y ago
A proposal to stop the purchase of property by nameless numbered entities ("123 LLC") would have my full support. It's not like foreign buyers put down "China Inc" on the purchase forms.
- Quillbert182 4y ago
  It seems to me like it might be a good idea to require citizenship to create an LLC.
  - wombat_trouble 4y ago
    What would that accomplish? Most LLCs are created (incorporated) by a lawyer who then cedes control to the intended owners. Even if you had a requirement for a US person, you'd just have figureheads collecting some nominal salary. Plenty of low-income folks would be eager to get an extra $500 a month for doing nothing. For what it's worth, the formation of an LLC is a state affair, and every state has its own rules around requirements, reporting, transparency, etc. Most states keep the paperwork public; some states don't, but these are not the states where housing shortages are all that profound.
    - positr0n 4y ago
      > Plenty of low-income folks would be eager to get an extra $500 a month for doing nothing. If this hypothetical low income person owned the LLC so that others could operate it, nothing is stopping them from cleaning out the LLC's bank account whenever they want since they own it!
      - wombat_trouble 4y ago
        It doesn't work that way. An LLC is governed by an operating agreement, and that agreement can specify what actions needs approval from whom. You can have an LLC that is owned by one person and managed by another, and yet another party collects proceeds... sky's the limit, if it's not otherwise illegal, it's fair game.
  - 4y ago
jeanofthedead 4y ago
Same. Just don't give apps all of the permissions. TikTok doesn't have access to my camera, photo library, microphone, local network, location, etc. It's not that hard.
- rcme 4y ago
  Do you also forbid giving TikTok access to your brain? That’s the main issue here.
  - randombits0 4y ago
    Dang, do you know how bad you sound? TikTok may be crack cocaine but it’s just media, protected expression, and beyond consideration for censorship. You let these bastards turn off this app and they will come back and do it again and again. Mind cancer! For the good of national security! Save the children! What a bunch of rubbish. Go back to school! Wait, you’re screwed there too!
    - rcme 4y ago
      Is your claim that all media is perfectly fungible so you don’t need to care about its content or origin and that media has no impact on your beliefs and psyche? That doesn’t sound reasonable to me.
      - randombits0 4y ago
        No, I’m saying folks can choose what media they want. Are you suggesting that some media is so evil its availability shouldn’t be tolerated? Yeah, no.
        rcme 4y ago
        No, I'm not claiming that media is so evil it can't be tolerated. I'm claiming that there is a national security risk to letting an adversary control the information flow to the population. This has nothing to do with the contents of the media itself.
twobitshifter 4y ago
Governor Abbott is supporting that bill at the moment https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-banning-texas-land-purchases-by-certain-adversarial-nations-gains-support-of-abbott https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-banning-texas-land-purch... Yet, Aramco (Saudi Arabia) purchased the largest oil refinery in the US under his watch. https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys-largest-oil-refinery-port-arthur/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys...
- hnburnsy 4y ago
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- gretch 4y ago
  It’s a not a contradiction. Oil infrastructure does not do the same thing that land/housing does. The USA does not have the same relationship with Saudi Arabia as it does with China (+ NK, Rus, Iran).
renewiltord 4y ago
Why? They'll pay us to buy the land and if they fight us, we just take it. This is ideal: they give us money to own in name something that we will own in practice.
mannerheim 4y ago
Why? Worst comes to worst, anything physically in America owned by a hostile foreign power can be seized, pieces of paper be damned.

sdfghjkjhvgcfdx 4y ago

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seccess 4y ago
You should. I have no idea to what you're referring.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
maerF0x0 4y ago
tell him what?
- 1MachineElf 4y ago
  If I had to guess, it would probably be some revelation about Bill Gates being the biggest private owner of farmland in the US: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/05/bill-gates-climate-crisis-farmland https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/05/bill-g...
  - TurkishPoptart 4y ago
    I wish he would just grow trees on those properties. For all we know all that land will be used to deploy soylent/fake meat alternative/cricket meat a la "eat the bugs".

rchaud 4y ago

A proposal to stop the purchase of property by nameless numbered entities ("123 LLC") would have my full support. It's not like foreign buyers put down "China Inc" on the purchase forms.

Quillbert182 4y ago
It seems to me like it might be a good idea to require citizenship to create an LLC.
- wombat_trouble 4y ago
  What would that accomplish? Most LLCs are created (incorporated) by a lawyer who then cedes control to the intended owners. Even if you had a requirement for a US person, you'd just have figureheads collecting some nominal salary. Plenty of low-income folks would be eager to get an extra $500 a month for doing nothing. For what it's worth, the formation of an LLC is a state affair, and every state has its own rules around requirements, reporting, transparency, etc. Most states keep the paperwork public; some states don't, but these are not the states where housing shortages are all that profound.
  - positr0n 4y ago
    > Plenty of low-income folks would be eager to get an extra $500 a month for doing nothing. If this hypothetical low income person owned the LLC so that others could operate it, nothing is stopping them from cleaning out the LLC's bank account whenever they want since they own it!
    - wombat_trouble 4y ago
      It doesn't work that way. An LLC is governed by an operating agreement, and that agreement can specify what actions needs approval from whom. You can have an LLC that is owned by one person and managed by another, and yet another party collects proceeds... sky's the limit, if it's not otherwise illegal, it's fair game.
- 4y ago

jeanofthedead 4y ago

Same. Just don't give apps all of the permissions. TikTok doesn't have access to my camera, photo library, microphone, local network, location, etc. It's not that hard.

rcme 4y ago
Do you also forbid giving TikTok access to your brain? That’s the main issue here.
- randombits0 4y ago
  Dang, do you know how bad you sound? TikTok may be crack cocaine but it’s just media, protected expression, and beyond consideration for censorship. You let these bastards turn off this app and they will come back and do it again and again. Mind cancer! For the good of national security! Save the children! What a bunch of rubbish. Go back to school! Wait, you’re screwed there too!
  - rcme 4y ago
    Is your claim that all media is perfectly fungible so you don’t need to care about its content or origin and that media has no impact on your beliefs and psyche? That doesn’t sound reasonable to me.
    - randombits0 4y ago
      No, I’m saying folks can choose what media they want. Are you suggesting that some media is so evil its availability shouldn’t be tolerated? Yeah, no.
      - rcme 4y ago
        No, I'm not claiming that media is so evil it can't be tolerated. I'm claiming that there is a national security risk to letting an adversary control the information flow to the population. This has nothing to do with the contents of the media itself.

twobitshifter 4y ago

Governor Abbott is supporting that bill at the moment https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-banning-texas-land-purchases-by-certain-adversarial-nations-gains-support-of-abbott https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-banning-texas-land-purch... Yet, Aramco (Saudi Arabia) purchased the largest oil refinery in the US under his watch. https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys-largest-oil-refinery-port-arthur/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys...

hnburnsy 4y ago
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gretch 4y ago
It’s a not a contradiction. Oil infrastructure does not do the same thing that land/housing does. The USA does not have the same relationship with Saudi Arabia as it does with China (+ NK, Rus, Iran).

renewiltord 4y ago

Why? They'll pay us to buy the land and if they fight us, we just take it. This is ideal: they give us money to own in name something that we will own in practice.

mannerheim 4y ago

Why? Worst comes to worst, anything physically in America owned by a hostile foreign power can be seized, pieces of paper be damned.