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Yeah, this coverage (as is so common with this company) seems a bit off. This wasn't a product in 2016, it was a technology demonstration. How many tech giant

by ajross 4y ago

Yeah, this coverage (as is so common with this company) seems a bit off. This wasn't a product in 2016, it was a technology demonstration. How many tech giants have stood on stage demoing products that barely worked, with an army of engineers on site to get it right before the reveal? As far as mapping the route... that's The Standard Model for this industry for every manufacturer except Tesla. Folks: please stop watching coverage that merely confirms your priors. Every car can get FSD now for $200/month and enroll in the beta. Call a friend and get a ride. It's great, I promise. No, it's not done. But it's great.

clouddrover 4y ago
> It's great, I promise. It's not just great, it's hardcore: https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/ https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-auto... Woo! FSD! FSD!
- ajross 4y ago
  This is exactly the kind of unserious flamery I was talking about. And it's simply out of control on this site. Get a ride, is all I can say. It may not be as fun as yelling about it on the internet, but you'll get a much better idea of the capabilities of this technology, and probably have a ton of fun while you do.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    What, you think an 8 car pileup is "unserious"? That's interesting.
    - jsjohnst 4y ago
      That accident was caused by an inattentive driver, full stop. Even an FSDb equipped Tesla isn’t autonomous, and the car in question didn’t even have that.
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        > That accident was caused by an inattentive driver, full stop. No, you've been musked. It was Tesla's software that brought the car to a full stop, full stop. It's funny how Tesla wants to claim credit for X million miles without crashes under software control, except for that last mile where there's a problem. That one belongs to the driver. > Even an FSDb equipped Tesla isn’t autonomous, So.. you agree that Tesla's video promoting full self-driving was staged. And you agree with Tesla that they have failed to deliver full self-driving: https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-failure-realize-long-term-aspirational-goal-not-fraud/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-fai... > the car in question didn’t even have that. Sure it did. Your beliefs are not matching the realities. You might want to read the article. Here's another article: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/business/tesla-8-car-crash-autopilot/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/business/tesla-8-car-cras...
        jsjohnst 4y ago
        > No, you've been musked. Sorry internet troll, but no, I haven’t. You’re the one stupid enough to take Musk at his word, not I. > you agree that Tesla's video promoting full self-driving was staged. Of course I do. Any sane person would also agree. > Sure it did. Read it again. Then apply logical thought to it and not “yeah, here’s a link that I can parrot around like an idiot!”

by ajross 4y ago

clouddrover 4y ago

> It's great, I promise. It's not just great, it's hardcore: https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/ https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-auto... Woo! FSD! FSD!

ajross 4y ago
This is exactly the kind of unserious flamery I was talking about. And it's simply out of control on this site. Get a ride, is all I can say. It may not be as fun as yelling about it on the internet, but you'll get a much better idea of the capabilities of this technology, and probably have a ton of fun while you do.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  What, you think an 8 car pileup is "unserious"? That's interesting.
  - jsjohnst 4y ago
    That accident was caused by an inattentive driver, full stop. Even an FSDb equipped Tesla isn’t autonomous, and the car in question didn’t even have that.
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      > That accident was caused by an inattentive driver, full stop. No, you've been musked. It was Tesla's software that brought the car to a full stop, full stop. It's funny how Tesla wants to claim credit for X million miles without crashes under software control, except for that last mile where there's a problem. That one belongs to the driver. > Even an FSDb equipped Tesla isn’t autonomous, So.. you agree that Tesla's video promoting full self-driving was staged. And you agree with Tesla that they have failed to deliver full self-driving: https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-failure-realize-long-term-aspirational-goal-not-fraud/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-fai... > the car in question didn’t even have that. Sure it did. Your beliefs are not matching the realities. You might want to read the article. Here's another article: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/business/tesla-8-car-crash-autopilot/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/business/tesla-8-car-cras...
      - jsjohnst 4y ago
        > No, you've been musked. Sorry internet troll, but no, I haven’t. You’re the one stupid enough to take Musk at his word, not I. > you agree that Tesla's video promoting full self-driving was staged. Of course I do. Any sane person would also agree. > Sure it did. Read it again. Then apply logical thought to it and not “yeah, here’s a link that I can parrot around like an idiot!”