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this is why we are taught in HS how insidious smoking is. We were taught that with many drugs (say heroin), one is always chasing that "first high", as it is t

this is why we are taught in HS how insidious smoking is. We were taught that with many drugs (say heroin), one is always chasing that "first high", as it is tremendous feeling, and subsequent usages never are the same. While with cigarettes, almost universally people will tell you that their initial usage is terrible, they can't stand it. The only reason people are able to keep doing it is because they get used to it, and their body develop a dependency on it.

xur17 4y ago
> While with cigarettes, almost universally people will tell you that their initial usage is terrible, they can't stand it. Sounds like beer.
- filoleg 4y ago
  > Sounds like beer. I disagree. While a lot of people might not like the taste of their first beer, they tend to not have the same feelings about the effects of it. E.g., the first time i tried mezcal, I was not really into the flavor of it, but I liked how it made me feel afterwards. Eventually I developed an appreciation for the flavor and started genuinely liking it (just like it happened with beer for a lot of people). But I liked the effects of it the first time around just like I liked them later on, all that's changed is flavor. Had a similar experience in terms of flavor with some cheeses as well, it is just an acquired taste. And in case of cheeses (unlike with mezcal), there was no "feeling" that I liked the first time around, I just eventually started enjoying the flavor. With cigarettes, the first time I tried it, there was not a single feeling I liked about it at all.
  - compsciphd 4y ago
    as he said, there's a difference between disliking the taste of something and something physically making you ill (i.e. it making you cough and feel terrible). i.e. your body is telling you "this is poison". so yeah, you can acclimate to the poison, but its still poison. Even if one considers ethanol to be poison, the first consumptions of it (say in wine) doesn't give the same reaction.
cma 4y ago
I'm not sure this is really true, you get huge nicotine buzzes at first, though too much can make you feel nauseous.

xur17 4y ago

> While with cigarettes, almost universally people will tell you that their initial usage is terrible, they can't stand it. Sounds like beer.

filoleg 4y ago
> Sounds like beer. I disagree. While a lot of people might not like the taste of their first beer, they tend to not have the same feelings about the effects of it. E.g., the first time i tried mezcal, I was not really into the flavor of it, but I liked how it made me feel afterwards. Eventually I developed an appreciation for the flavor and started genuinely liking it (just like it happened with beer for a lot of people). But I liked the effects of it the first time around just like I liked them later on, all that's changed is flavor. Had a similar experience in terms of flavor with some cheeses as well, it is just an acquired taste. And in case of cheeses (unlike with mezcal), there was no "feeling" that I liked the first time around, I just eventually started enjoying the flavor. With cigarettes, the first time I tried it, there was not a single feeling I liked about it at all.
- compsciphd 4y ago
  as he said, there's a difference between disliking the taste of something and something physically making you ill (i.e. it making you cough and feel terrible). i.e. your body is telling you "this is poison". so yeah, you can acclimate to the poison, but its still poison. Even if one considers ethanol to be poison, the first consumptions of it (say in wine) doesn't give the same reaction.

cma 4y ago

I'm not sure this is really true, you get huge nicotine buzzes at first, though too much can make you feel nauseous.