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Pro, Max, Ultra, any combination of these. I can't understand any of these. Not that it means anything more than an artificial fragmentation to bring in more up

Pro, Max, Ultra, any combination of these. I can't understand any of these. Not that it means anything more than an artificial fragmentation to bring in more upsell opportunities. Looks like 90s Apple again, at least from this point of view. I understand the old (simple and brilliant) four-quadrant is not going to fit anymore, but this is just the opposite extreme.

sergiomattei 4y ago
It’s not that complicated. Good, better, best. You can customize any of these with the specs you need on their website.
Invictus0 4y ago
Really? There's 4 processors and 2 generations, it's not that hard. Compare to intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/core/i7/products.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/pro...
- jslql 4y ago
  With Intel higher = better. What’s better, ultra or pro?
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Ultra since pro is the baseline adjective. Not that I find the naming any good but Max v Ultra would have been more of a head scratcher.
    - jslql 4y ago
      I assume Max is better since there’s nothing higher than the maximum.
      - masklinn 4y ago
        Which is why it's more of a head scratcher. Pro < Max < Ultra. The Max is a Pro with (up to) double the number of GPU cores (and memory controllers), the Ultra is two maxes stapled together: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/apples-m1-ultra-tapes-two-m1-max-chips-together/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/apples-m1-ultra-tape...
    - wpm 4y ago
      Apple Marketing under Joz has been in love with this Pro-Max-Ultra tiering, and it's mind boggling. Very very confusing to have Max(imum) be the middle tier. If Ultra was Ultimate, maybe it'd make more sense, but Pro-Ultra-Max just makes more sense. But even Max kinda stinks because it's basically the same word as "Macs". Max Macs, Macs Max. Ugh
      - achairapart 4y ago
        Also: Pro is messing up with the well-known and familiar "Pro" as in Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. I.e.: "Hey, look at my new Macbook Pro M2 Pro!" Then, this is also used - completely unrelated to the CPU in there - in the iPhone line-up, in a whole new mixed-up level ("look at my new iPhone Pro Max Ultra!"), as well as randomly for other hardware (AirPod Max?). What a mess. Actually, this is worse then 90s Apple.
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    > With Intel higher = better. So which is better, the 13500HX, or the 1365UE? What about the 13620H? What about the 13900/13900F/13900E/13900H/13900HK/13900T/13900TE/13900HX/13900K/13900KF/13900KS? Which is better? And the 13905H is clearly better than all of them because higher = better right? Intel has an absolute shit naming scheme.
  - Invictus0 4y ago
    The very first processor in the list is the i7-1365UE, which is a lower number than processors from 10 years ago.

sergiomattei 4y ago

It’s not that complicated. Good, better, best. You can customize any of these with the specs you need on their website.

Invictus0 4y ago

Really? There's 4 processors and 2 generations, it's not that hard. Compare to intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/core/i7/products.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/pro...

jslql 4y ago
With Intel higher = better. What’s better, ultra or pro?
- masklinn 4y ago
  Ultra since pro is the baseline adjective. Not that I find the naming any good but Max v Ultra would have been more of a head scratcher.
  - jslql 4y ago
    I assume Max is better since there’s nothing higher than the maximum.
    - masklinn 4y ago
      Which is why it's more of a head scratcher. Pro < Max < Ultra. The Max is a Pro with (up to) double the number of GPU cores (and memory controllers), the Ultra is two maxes stapled together: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/apples-m1-ultra-tapes-two-m1-max-chips-together/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/apples-m1-ultra-tape...
  - wpm 4y ago
    Apple Marketing under Joz has been in love with this Pro-Max-Ultra tiering, and it's mind boggling. Very very confusing to have Max(imum) be the middle tier. If Ultra was Ultimate, maybe it'd make more sense, but Pro-Ultra-Max just makes more sense. But even Max kinda stinks because it's basically the same word as "Macs". Max Macs, Macs Max. Ugh
    - achairapart 4y ago
      Also: Pro is messing up with the well-known and familiar "Pro" as in Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. I.e.: "Hey, look at my new Macbook Pro M2 Pro!" Then, this is also used - completely unrelated to the CPU in there - in the iPhone line-up, in a whole new mixed-up level ("look at my new iPhone Pro Max Ultra!"), as well as randomly for other hardware (AirPod Max?). What a mess. Actually, this is worse then 90s Apple.
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  > With Intel higher = better. So which is better, the 13500HX, or the 1365UE? What about the 13620H? What about the 13900/13900F/13900E/13900H/13900HK/13900T/13900TE/13900HX/13900K/13900KF/13900KS? Which is better? And the 13905H is clearly better than all of them because higher = better right? Intel has an absolute shit naming scheme.
- Invictus0 4y ago
  The very first processor in the list is the i7-1365UE, which is a lower number than processors from 10 years ago.