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Apple unveils M2 Pro and M2 Max

36 points by matteocontrini 4y ago

Triangle9349 4y ago
notch there? I'll wait PC alternatives have been encouraging lately
janmo 4y ago
Couldn't find if it is using the new TSMC 3nm technology. That's really what matters.
- matteocontrini 4y ago
  The article says "second-generation 5-nanometer process technology".
  - janmo 4y ago
    What a big disappointment. I will pass this one...
    - dbbk 4y ago
      Does it really matter?
    - FinnKuhn 4y ago
      wouldn't say disappointment, because this was to be expected when you consider that they are just "bigger" versions of the M2, which is using TMS 5mm and has been out since quite a while.
- cududa 4y ago
  Why does it matter?
  - dougmwne 4y ago
    Because the new process will deliver a good step forward in performance and efficiency. We will have to wait for the M3 chips to get a significant improvement. These M2 chips seem to be about a 20% CPU and 30% GPU improvement which is not going to be worth upgrading from M1 chips for the vast majority of people. M3 on a 3nm process will be worth the upgrade for more people.
    - dbbk 4y ago
      People don't generally upgrade laptops after 1 or 2 years.
      - bookofjoe 4y ago
        I'm using a 2012 MacBook Pro quite happily. Never had a single problem.
      - dachryn 4y ago
        I did 8 years with my 2011 macbook pro, and wouldn't have upgraded if it didn't die due to a graphics card failure
      - dougmwne 4y ago
        True, most people don’t need any kind of specific performance at all and could probably keep a modern laptop for 10 years. The people paying attention to performance benchmarks may have more performance oriented workloads that might benefit from the 50% to 100% increase we’ll probably see from M1 to M3.
nerdjon 4y ago
I am really frustrated that the M2 Pro still only supports 2 external monitors. I don't really need the power of the Max, I just need to be able to power 3 monitors. I figured with the power increase it would at least jump up to 3 this generation, but I guess not. I was putting off buying a new 16" hoping the m2 would fix this issue, but looks like I am just getting the m2 max.
- thebruce87m 4y ago
  Have you tried ultrawide monitors? I don’t think I could go back to multiple individual monitors.
  - dachryn 4y ago
    Yes, I have 2 :)
- firecall 4y ago
  Agreed. It seems like an artificial limit to force some product segmentation. And as such it comes across as very hostile towards customers. I expect it’s going to be one of this things, regardless of how much GPU power you have, that the base model Pro won’t run more than 2 displays :-/

Triangle9349 4y ago

notch there? I'll wait PC alternatives have been encouraging lately

janmo 4y ago

Couldn't find if it is using the new TSMC 3nm technology. That's really what matters.

matteocontrini 4y ago
The article says "second-generation 5-nanometer process technology".
- janmo 4y ago
  What a big disappointment. I will pass this one...
  - dbbk 4y ago
    Does it really matter?
  - FinnKuhn 4y ago
    wouldn't say disappointment, because this was to be expected when you consider that they are just "bigger" versions of the M2, which is using TMS 5mm and has been out since quite a while.
cududa 4y ago
Why does it matter?
- dougmwne 4y ago
  Because the new process will deliver a good step forward in performance and efficiency. We will have to wait for the M3 chips to get a significant improvement. These M2 chips seem to be about a 20% CPU and 30% GPU improvement which is not going to be worth upgrading from M1 chips for the vast majority of people. M3 on a 3nm process will be worth the upgrade for more people.
  - dbbk 4y ago
    People don't generally upgrade laptops after 1 or 2 years.
    - bookofjoe 4y ago
      I'm using a 2012 MacBook Pro quite happily. Never had a single problem.
    - dachryn 4y ago
      I did 8 years with my 2011 macbook pro, and wouldn't have upgraded if it didn't die due to a graphics card failure
    - dougmwne 4y ago
      True, most people don’t need any kind of specific performance at all and could probably keep a modern laptop for 10 years. The people paying attention to performance benchmarks may have more performance oriented workloads that might benefit from the 50% to 100% increase we’ll probably see from M1 to M3.

nerdjon 4y ago

I am really frustrated that the M2 Pro still only supports 2 external monitors. I don't really need the power of the Max, I just need to be able to power 3 monitors. I figured with the power increase it would at least jump up to 3 this generation, but I guess not. I was putting off buying a new 16" hoping the m2 would fix this issue, but looks like I am just getting the m2 max.

thebruce87m 4y ago
Have you tried ultrawide monitors? I don’t think I could go back to multiple individual monitors.
- dachryn 4y ago
  Yes, I have 2 :)
firecall 4y ago
Agreed. It seems like an artificial limit to force some product segmentation. And as such it comes across as very hostile towards customers. I expect it’s going to be one of this things, regardless of how much GPU power you have, that the base model Pro won’t run more than 2 displays :-/