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Most millennial parents are not even in old age yet and are statistically more affluent than they are. I don’t think your analysis is correct. Plus my own exp

Most millennial parents are not even in old age yet and are statistically more affluent than they are. I don’t think your analysis is correct. Plus my own experience as someone born in 1989 doesn’t really mesh with yours. Most of my friends are both what I would call more frugal and more down to earth than their parents were because they had to live through multiple economic crashes. There is little nihilism but people are disillusioned with the system because they feel it’s setup to favour an older age bracket at their expense and failing to address the most pressing issues like climate change.

anonyfox 4y ago
> it’s setup to favour an older age bracket at their expense and failing to address the most pressing issues like climate change nailed it. born '88, this summarizes my current world view so much, it's almost scary. I turned to solarpunk and try to decide every day decisions in a way that make this future more possible. I may not succeed, it may never happen, but after lots of reflection, this is the only future setting we can achieve and allows our (esp.: my) children to be better off than we are. Other ways simply lead to more pain/suffering/destruction/... no matter if they are philosophical more just or whatever. If you are leaning towards socialism, liberalism or are conservative, it all ultimately doesn't matter - green/sustainability is the only way to not destroy our planet too much in the next decades.
pookha 4y ago
Back in the 70's and 80's people were pretty frugal. The average person was experienced with Lay-away, balancing checkbooks and not a lot of people had credit (high interest rates). What you're witnessing now are just older people that have a lifetime of work accrued and are just trying to enjoy what they have while they can. You'll probably do the same... But in no way shape or form are millennial's in a worse place than people were in the late 70's early 80's. I'd argue thins are considerably better thanks to the wide availability of tech jobs.
- WastingMyTime89 4y ago
  > What you're witnessing now are just older people that have a lifetime of work accrued and are just trying to enjoy what they have while they can. You'll probably do the same... That’s simply extremely untrue. You can delude yourself if it helps you sleep but this is factually false. People born in the 60s were the beneficiaries of policies which just don’t exist anymore. They grew in a context of full employment at any qualification level and with career paths towards higher pay which simply don’t exist anymore. Education costs and especially habitation costs both outpaced inflation widely. Tech jobs are such a niche it’s barely worth mentioning. The situation is even worse where I’m from in Europe with social systems having been utterly mismanaged for decades and a total refusal to equitably address the situation nowadays. And let’s not talk about the brain dead decisions taken by this generation when it comes to sustainability which millennials and gen z will now have to solve.
nerdponx 4y ago
> Most of my friends are both what I would call more frugal and more down to earth than their parents were because they had to live through multiple economic crashes. Is it because they had to live through multiple economic crashes, or because their own prospects are worse than those of their parents and they know it?

anonyfox 4y ago

> it’s setup to favour an older age bracket at their expense and failing to address the most pressing issues like climate change nailed it. born '88, this summarizes my current world view so much, it's almost scary. I turned to solarpunk and try to decide every day decisions in a way that make this future more possible. I may not succeed, it may never happen, but after lots of reflection, this is the only future setting we can achieve and allows our (esp.: my) children to be better off than we are. Other ways simply lead to more pain/suffering/destruction/... no matter if they are philosophical more just or whatever. If you are leaning towards socialism, liberalism or are conservative, it all ultimately doesn't matter - green/sustainability is the only way to not destroy our planet too much in the next decades.

pookha 4y ago

Back in the 70's and 80's people were pretty frugal. The average person was experienced with Lay-away, balancing checkbooks and not a lot of people had credit (high interest rates). What you're witnessing now are just older people that have a lifetime of work accrued and are just trying to enjoy what they have while they can. You'll probably do the same... But in no way shape or form are millennial's in a worse place than people were in the late 70's early 80's. I'd argue thins are considerably better thanks to the wide availability of tech jobs.

WastingMyTime89 4y ago
> What you're witnessing now are just older people that have a lifetime of work accrued and are just trying to enjoy what they have while they can. You'll probably do the same... That’s simply extremely untrue. You can delude yourself if it helps you sleep but this is factually false. People born in the 60s were the beneficiaries of policies which just don’t exist anymore. They grew in a context of full employment at any qualification level and with career paths towards higher pay which simply don’t exist anymore. Education costs and especially habitation costs both outpaced inflation widely. Tech jobs are such a niche it’s barely worth mentioning. The situation is even worse where I’m from in Europe with social systems having been utterly mismanaged for decades and a total refusal to equitably address the situation nowadays. And let’s not talk about the brain dead decisions taken by this generation when it comes to sustainability which millennials and gen z will now have to solve.

nerdponx 4y ago

> Most of my friends are both what I would call more frugal and more down to earth than their parents were because they had to live through multiple economic crashes. Is it because they had to live through multiple economic crashes, or because their own prospects are worse than those of their parents and they know it?