> I'm reading that as, "we don't need to ask, we can just make them do it." Which to me is pretty arrogant. It was never "asked" in first place; there was a la

> I'm reading that as, "we don't need to ask, we can just make them do it." Which to me is pretty arrogant. It was never "asked" in first place; there was a large discussion on HN around the article about automakers driving the policies (https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7551873/jaywalking-history https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7551873/jaywalking-history). It's also not forcing anybody; it's a shift of conveniences. In a hypothetical situation with fantasy metrics, making a city 2x as comfortable for sustainable means (bikes, motorbikes, public transport) and 0.5x as comfortable for cars will not force anybody to use the former - people who love their time in the cars will still be able to. (I stress that this applies to cities where logistics make a restructuring possible, which is not the case everywhere)