> if I spend a lot of time programming, I want the language to be succint and straight to the point. When I was a beginner, I -also- wanted that. For some peop

> if I spend a lot of time programming, I want the language to be succint and straight to the point. When I was a beginner, I -also- wanted that. For some people, verbose == readable, but for many, it's just not so.