they are good value if you know what you want I bought two of these[1] for hacking on[2] and, in my experience and opinion, the ones I got are appalling value

they are good value if you know what you want I bought two of these[1] for hacking on[2] and, in my experience and opinion, the ones I got are appalling value for most people. The remote control works like a combination of a mouse (wiimote style against IR LEDs in the unit) and keyboard (the buttons.) So you're using a remote control to emulate a mouse and keyboard to interact with an interface designed primarily for a touch screen. In the Android launcher, I found you have to first use the remote buttons to highlight a launcher icon, then use the "mouse" wiimote thingy to -also- hover the cursor over it, and then press and hold the OK button (not tap it) in order to launch an app. The devices work reasonably well with a proper wireless keyboard and mouse. But in that case why not just buy a tablet with HDMI out for similar or less money? Or dust off an old PC? Add that to apparently patchy video decoding support, and my verdict is: "really, don't bother". If/when the promised open source GoogleTV support drops as part of ICS AOSP, things might change. Then they'll actually have a TV-oriented interface not a kludge. [1] FV-1, S5PV210 based, the first result of the search link. [2] I bought them to port GNU/Linux w/ X11, with a goal of porting XBMC. I'll hold back on that rant. ;)