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If 100% of the population was vaccinated, 100% of the hospitalization and deaths would be of vaccinated people. Can you see how your argument is so very stupid?

• yucky 4y ago
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  • acdha 4y ago
    Again, you have to look at the rates. When most people are vaccinated at least partially that just tells you that the larger population is larger. What you instead want to look at are the rates between comparable groups. Here are some examples from 3 separate publications, all recent: > Among more than 700,000 participants age 65 and older, who either had the bivalent or did not, there was an 81% reduction of Covid hospitalizations (Figure below) and an 86% reduction of deaths. > Here are the data for age 65 and older, showing marked protection vs. hospitalization ranging from 73 to 84%, comparing not only to those unvaccinated but also those individuals who had been vaccinated and boosted. A second report was for all adults age 18 and up, showing bivalent booster 38 to 57% effectiveness vs hospitalization, which is consistent, but of lower magnitude than for seniors. This would be expected in a lower risk group with a high incidence of infections in the unvaccinated controls. > During November, for people age 65 and older, there was a 90% reduction of hospitalizations for the bivalent vs unvaccinated, a 13.5-fold increased risk of hospitalization for the latter group, and 2.5 fold higher rate among seniors vaccinated but without a bivalent booster. https://erictopol.substack.com/p/the-bivalent-vaccine-booster-outperforms https://erictopol.substack.com/p/the-bivalent-vaccine-booste...
    • yucky 4y ago
      Polio vaccine, MMR etc. are safe and effective. You can't compare COVID vaccine to them since thousands of people are dying all the time despite being vaccinated. That's not the case with any of these other vaccines.