Id argue any violence used to create a sensation of fear in order to coerce specific behavior. When the system itself is also a source of coercion I guess viole

Id argue any violence used to create a sensation of fear in order to coerce specific behavior. When the system itself is also a source of coercion I guess violence against the system can be justified if you're reacting to a threat to your personal liberties. But all in all, i think that it cuts deeper, there is definitely a mix of political opinion on hackernews, but i havent seen any significant examples of a facist militia member or black block antifa rioter. Those are both extreme ends of the american political dichotomy, but i dont think either are an embodiment of their respective ideas because they dont allow those ideas to flourish on their own. They're idealogically bankrupt so they MUST turn to violence. I dont see them as liberal or conservative but as nihilists (possibly even unknowingly) with no real association outside of an easy larp.