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That's about the worst that can happen if you rely on any cloud. With that risk existing, I think people are massively miscalculating the time / money / complex

That's about the worst that can happen if you rely on any cloud. With that risk existing, I think people are massively miscalculating the time / money / complexity they save on cloud offerings. "You don't have to worry about anything, we've got you covered. But there's a 0.05% chance on any given day that you lose access to everything and we won't bring it back unless you personally know someone at our company."

Gigachad 4y ago
Because people losing their data before the cloud was unheard of. The most safe option is to use the cloud but also download the data exports for local storage. This is very easy with Google Takeout but I was unable to work out how to do this with iCloud since they seem to think there would be no point ever exporting your data from iCloud.
- luckylion 4y ago
  Not unheard of, but usually your fault ("I didn't think I need a backup"), and easy to avoid once you've formed a habit. You're right that the safest option will be to have backups of your own, but at that point the cloud is only adding convenience for backing up your device for restoring, or for synchronizing files between cell and pc. To be sure you still have your data five years from now, you still need to do it yourself. I believe a lot of people understand the cloud to mean "I give you money, you make sure everything works and I don't have to get into the details".
- hoistbypetard 4y ago
  > Because people losing their data before the cloud was unheard of. That's not true at all. There were entire businesses before "the cloud" that did very little more than service people who had lost their data and help them recover it. I used to get billed out at near-lawyerly rates for recovering data in the mid 1990s. While I was in high school. Businesses like DriveSavers were even more lucrative.

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That's about the worst that can happen if you rely on any cloud. With that risk existing, I think people are massively miscalculating the time / money / complex

by luckylion 4y ago

Gigachad 4y ago
Because people losing their data before the cloud was unheard of. The most safe option is to use the cloud but also download the data exports for local storage. This is very easy with Google Takeout but I was unable to work out how to do this with iCloud since they seem to think there would be no point ever exporting your data from iCloud.
- luckylion 4y ago
  Not unheard of, but usually your fault ("I didn't think I need a backup"), and easy to avoid once you've formed a habit. You're right that the safest option will be to have backups of your own, but at that point the cloud is only adding convenience for backing up your device for restoring, or for synchronizing files between cell and pc. To be sure you still have your data five years from now, you still need to do it yourself. I believe a lot of people understand the cloud to mean "I give you money, you make sure everything works and I don't have to get into the details".
- hoistbypetard 4y ago
  > Because people losing their data before the cloud was unheard of. That's not true at all. There were entire businesses before "the cloud" that did very little more than service people who had lost their data and help them recover it. I used to get billed out at near-lawyerly rates for recovering data in the mid 1990s. While I was in high school. Businesses like DriveSavers were even more lucrative.