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Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks App

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

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jtbayly 4y ago
Or not let your child use an Apple device . That's actually your choice if it's your choice whether/which apps they can install.
- gtvwill 4y ago
  Bit hard when its the dad thats non-existant in the kids life buying them a iphone @ 12. Restrict the usage of that and see how well your relationship with your kid holds up. Had this happen to us, my partners kids. Its a subtle attempt to destabilize and subvert her authority as parent figure even though old mate isn't even around, hasn't been for years and still is an abusive S*t. We got forced to buy a iphone in order to put parent restrictions on. Its shits as. I hate apple. Company does bulk crap that enables abusers and does piss all to prevent it or be like hey...maybe this is a ethically shit thing to implement. Maybe its gonna cause a whole host of people grief. Don't even get me started on apple air tags.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Yes I’m sure that Apple has meetings and talks about how to enable abusive parents. If she has custody, she can just say no to her kid.
- mklepaczewski 4y ago
  There are many reasons why it's not that simple. My kid may be old enough to make the decision on which phone to buy, but not old enough to have unrestricted access to it. I may be divorced, and the device might have been given to them buy another parent. The device might have necessary features that are missing from other non-Apple device.
  - kbelder 4y ago
    Yep. I have a general 'no Apple' rule in my house, but my stepdaughter came home with an iPhone from her dad. It wasn't done with evil intent, but it got her stuck in the Apple ecosystem, and it's disjoint from the rest of us.
yamtaddle 4y ago
IIRC you can sign in with an adult iCloud account then set all those same restrictions, protecting them behind an unlock code. The separate child iCloud accounts are handy if you do have multiple devices (remote management of those permissions is nice, and app store content sharing is nice) but if you just have a single one for your kid, that's an option. Adult iCloud account, enable restrictions with an unlock code. Unlock it when you need to manage the device or use it yourself. But, IDK, maybe they got rid of that feature. Definitely used to be able to do that.
mik1998 4y ago
Why would you buy your child an iphone if you don't have one?
- googlryas 4y ago
  Because kids might bully you over not having a blue bubble but adults might not.
- tartrate 4y ago
  Why would you buy your child an Android if you don't have one?
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    Who suggested buying your child an android when you don't have one? When somebody asks why you drink bleach, it doesn't imply that you should drink motor oil.
  - mik1998 4y ago
    Price, probably. Children are often quick to break fragile things like modern phones. But honestly, in my experience every parent I know buys their kids the same phone they use in terms of the OS.
  - kbelder 4y ago
    Because they'll break or lose them every six months, and you can replace them for $50.
    - mklepaczewski 4y ago
      These phones are sometimes (always?) preloaded with ton of shady apps. I definitely don't trust my kid to read EULA's and understand dangers of agreeing to random permission pop-ups. Even if I pre-screen all apps before giving the device to my kid, each system update may install new apps and children will definitely not wait for daddy to come from work to review them.
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heresaPizza 4y ago
Actually there are many ways to set parental controls on device and lock them with a passcode or you could use third party solution that use the Screen Time API but are compatible with Android.
- mklepaczewski 4y ago
  That's not the impression that has been presented to me. Wording clearly pointed to me needing my own device.
- markmark 4y ago
  It's so annoying that this isn't just a page on family.apple.com or whatever like Google does with familylink.google.com.
  - tails4e 4y ago
    100% agree.
  - tpmoney 4y ago
    It literally is though. The link "Learn more about Parental Controls" takes you here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 which walks you through doing all the setup.
    - markmark 4y ago
      That walks me through doing things on an iPhone I don't own, what am I missing? The familylink.google.com page lets me manage my kids' devices directly on that webpage, which is the feature I would like Apple to have. People have said you can manage it on the kids' device directly by logging in with your AppleId, but that doesn't help me if my kid is out and messages me asking me to allow an app or give her an extra half hour of screentime or something.
      - selectodude 4y ago
        You do it on the iOS device you’re trying to set screen time limits on. If you don’t own an iOS device, you’re not going to be setting limitations on an iOS device.

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jtbayly 4y ago

Or not let your child use an Apple device . That's actually your choice if it's your choice whether/which apps they can install.

gtvwill 4y ago
Bit hard when its the dad thats non-existant in the kids life buying them a iphone @ 12. Restrict the usage of that and see how well your relationship with your kid holds up. Had this happen to us, my partners kids. Its a subtle attempt to destabilize and subvert her authority as parent figure even though old mate isn't even around, hasn't been for years and still is an abusive S*t. We got forced to buy a iphone in order to put parent restrictions on. Its shits as. I hate apple. Company does bulk crap that enables abusers and does piss all to prevent it or be like hey...maybe this is a ethically shit thing to implement. Maybe its gonna cause a whole host of people grief. Don't even get me started on apple air tags.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Yes I’m sure that Apple has meetings and talks about how to enable abusive parents. If she has custody, she can just say no to her kid.
mklepaczewski 4y ago
There are many reasons why it's not that simple. My kid may be old enough to make the decision on which phone to buy, but not old enough to have unrestricted access to it. I may be divorced, and the device might have been given to them buy another parent. The device might have necessary features that are missing from other non-Apple device.
- kbelder 4y ago
  Yep. I have a general 'no Apple' rule in my house, but my stepdaughter came home with an iPhone from her dad. It wasn't done with evil intent, but it got her stuck in the Apple ecosystem, and it's disjoint from the rest of us.

yamtaddle 4y ago

IIRC you can sign in with an adult iCloud account then set all those same restrictions, protecting them behind an unlock code. The separate child iCloud accounts are handy if you do have multiple devices (remote management of those permissions is nice, and app store content sharing is nice) but if you just have a single one for your kid, that's an option. Adult iCloud account, enable restrictions with an unlock code. Unlock it when you need to manage the device or use it yourself. But, IDK, maybe they got rid of that feature. Definitely used to be able to do that.

mik1998 4y ago

Why would you buy your child an iphone if you don't have one?

googlryas 4y ago
Because kids might bully you over not having a blue bubble but adults might not.
tartrate 4y ago
Why would you buy your child an Android if you don't have one?
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Who suggested buying your child an android when you don't have one? When somebody asks why you drink bleach, it doesn't imply that you should drink motor oil.
- mik1998 4y ago
  Price, probably. Children are often quick to break fragile things like modern phones. But honestly, in my experience every parent I know buys their kids the same phone they use in terms of the OS.
- kbelder 4y ago
  Because they'll break or lose them every six months, and you can replace them for $50.
  - mklepaczewski 4y ago
    These phones are sometimes (always?) preloaded with ton of shady apps. I definitely don't trust my kid to read EULA's and understand dangers of agreeing to random permission pop-ups. Even if I pre-screen all apps before giving the device to my kid, each system update may install new apps and children will definitely not wait for daddy to come from work to review them.
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heresaPizza 4y ago

Actually there are many ways to set parental controls on device and lock them with a passcode or you could use third party solution that use the Screen Time API but are compatible with Android.

mklepaczewski 4y ago
That's not the impression that has been presented to me. Wording clearly pointed to me needing my own device.
markmark 4y ago
It's so annoying that this isn't just a page on family.apple.com or whatever like Google does with familylink.google.com.
- tails4e 4y ago
  100% agree.
- tpmoney 4y ago
  It literally is though. The link "Learn more about Parental Controls" takes you here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 which walks you through doing all the setup.
  - markmark 4y ago
    That walks me through doing things on an iPhone I don't own, what am I missing? The familylink.google.com page lets me manage my kids' devices directly on that webpage, which is the feature I would like Apple to have. People have said you can manage it on the kids' device directly by logging in with your AppleId, but that doesn't help me if my kid is out and messages me asking me to allow an app or give her an extra half hour of screentime or something.
    - selectodude 4y ago
      You do it on the iOS device you’re trying to set screen time limits on. If you don’t own an iOS device, you’re not going to be setting limitations on an iOS device.