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>Early on in my career, I had a "mentor" tell me to try it on my own before asking any questions only to swear under his breath when I messed up May I ask how

>Early on in my career, I had a "mentor" tell me to try it on my own before asking any questions only to swear under his breath when I messed up May I ask how long ago this was? Although shit colleagues and shit workplaces still exist, it feels like these days it would be shut down pretty quick by HR in the average company.

TexanFeller 4y ago
I have seen HR get involved in situations like this zero time in my career. I wouldn't want them to either.
- actually_a_dog 4y ago
  That depends IMO. Is the "mentor" really the "manager?" If someone with power over your performance evaluations and future at the company is swearing under their breath every time you do something wrong, that's a problem that HR maybe should be involved in.
  - fundad 4y ago
    Someone who needs to be on a performance plan expects HR to force coworkers to be more patient? Sounds about right
    - actually_a_dog 4y ago
      What are you on about with "performance plans" and such?
  - mnhn1 4y ago
    HR is not there to solve your problems. HR is there to protect the company. It's fine to be friendly with HR (some wonderful people work there), but remember who is paying them and whose interests they are supposed to look out for first. Definitely not yours. HR wants all the info they can get from you. They will cheerfully listen to everything you tell them. And then they will do their job, which is to analyze the situation for potential risks around legal exposure, and take steps to mitigate those risks. I would basically never bring HR in to a problem unless you are very confident that solving your problem and the goal of protecting the company are truly in alignment. Maybe retraining the manager is better for the company, but who knows. They can also solve their problem by removing the new employee who is being treated badly.
    - actually_a_dog 4y ago
      A hostile work environment is the company's problem.
icedchai 4y ago
Call me skeptical. In 20 years, I've only seen HR only get involved for hiring and firing. You'll be lucky to hear from them for anything else, maybe for benefits renewal or a DEI seminar.
watwut 4y ago
HR is not intervening in lows stakes ordinary day to day conflicts, power struggles or personality clashes such as this one. Nor are they able to.
omgmajk 4y ago
HR is not your friend, unless you work in management or above.

TexanFeller 4y ago

I have seen HR get involved in situations like this zero time in my career. I wouldn't want them to either.

actually_a_dog 4y ago
That depends IMO. Is the "mentor" really the "manager?" If someone with power over your performance evaluations and future at the company is swearing under their breath every time you do something wrong, that's a problem that HR maybe should be involved in.
- fundad 4y ago
  Someone who needs to be on a performance plan expects HR to force coworkers to be more patient? Sounds about right
  - actually_a_dog 4y ago
    What are you on about with "performance plans" and such?
- mnhn1 4y ago
  HR is not there to solve your problems. HR is there to protect the company. It's fine to be friendly with HR (some wonderful people work there), but remember who is paying them and whose interests they are supposed to look out for first. Definitely not yours. HR wants all the info they can get from you. They will cheerfully listen to everything you tell them. And then they will do their job, which is to analyze the situation for potential risks around legal exposure, and take steps to mitigate those risks. I would basically never bring HR in to a problem unless you are very confident that solving your problem and the goal of protecting the company are truly in alignment. Maybe retraining the manager is better for the company, but who knows. They can also solve their problem by removing the new employee who is being treated badly.
  - actually_a_dog 4y ago
    A hostile work environment is the company's problem.

icedchai 4y ago

Call me skeptical. In 20 years, I've only seen HR only get involved for hiring and firing. You'll be lucky to hear from them for anything else, maybe for benefits renewal or a DEI seminar.

watwut 4y ago

HR is not intervening in lows stakes ordinary day to day conflicts, power struggles or personality clashes such as this one. Nor are they able to.

omgmajk 4y ago

HR is not your friend, unless you work in management or above.