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I'd be more okay with donating via Patreon if they didn't do the thing where every internet platform that becomes successful feels the need to start going down

I'd be more okay with donating via Patreon if they didn't do the thing where every internet platform that becomes successful feels the need to start going down the political route. I'm not sure if this is a more of an issue due to the employees, or due to social media pressure, or if it's just "keeping up with the times" but I hate it. And it's also so US-centric, which makes sense as they are usually US-based companies, but it just irritates me looking from the outside.

bee_rider 4y ago
As someone who doesn’t follow the details of day to day Very Online politics-adjacent drama, I haven’t heard much about Patreon, so… they seem to be threading the needle well enough to stay off the radar of boring normies like myself. What’s their issue?
- Jensson 4y ago
  They started banning creators who made NSFW content a few years ago, might be that. They never allowed porn, but they started hammering down on all sorts of erotic material. I don't really care, but others do.
  - pdntspa 4y ago
    I think that was more at the behest of the payment processors, Visa and MC absolutely hate adult content-related stuff. Which is fucking stupid, IMHO
    - Karrot_Kream 4y ago
      It's due to chargeback risk. A lot of times folks will be caught paying for adult content on a credit card statement by a family member. They'll just tell family that it was fraud and dispute the charge. This occurs frequently enough that Visa and MC aren't fans of adult content on their payment networks.
    - astrange 4y ago
      That won't be a problem once/if the US has more popular payment rails that don't allow chargebacks.
  - pronlover723 4y ago
    > They never allowed porn WAT? I pay for porn on patreon and have for years. Maybe it's just live video porn that's banned? I have no idea. AFAIK the artists I'm subscribed to are not hiding their creations. In fact they're all over sites like pornhub, spankbang, etc with their patreon address in their videos. It's all CG or real time 3D but it's most certainly porn.
bottled_poe 4y ago
This seems like a natural outcome of running such a platform. The platform is trying to optimise revenue. They can choose which user complaints to support/reject but they can’t satisfy everyone.

bee_rider 4y ago

As someone who doesn’t follow the details of day to day Very Online politics-adjacent drama, I haven’t heard much about Patreon, so… they seem to be threading the needle well enough to stay off the radar of boring normies like myself. What’s their issue?

Jensson 4y ago
They started banning creators who made NSFW content a few years ago, might be that. They never allowed porn, but they started hammering down on all sorts of erotic material. I don't really care, but others do.
- pdntspa 4y ago
  I think that was more at the behest of the payment processors, Visa and MC absolutely hate adult content-related stuff. Which is fucking stupid, IMHO
  - Karrot_Kream 4y ago
    It's due to chargeback risk. A lot of times folks will be caught paying for adult content on a credit card statement by a family member. They'll just tell family that it was fraud and dispute the charge. This occurs frequently enough that Visa and MC aren't fans of adult content on their payment networks.
  - astrange 4y ago
    That won't be a problem once/if the US has more popular payment rails that don't allow chargebacks.
- pronlover723 4y ago
  > They never allowed porn WAT? I pay for porn on patreon and have for years. Maybe it's just live video porn that's banned? I have no idea. AFAIK the artists I'm subscribed to are not hiding their creations. In fact they're all over sites like pornhub, spankbang, etc with their patreon address in their videos. It's all CG or real time 3D but it's most certainly porn.

bottled_poe 4y ago

This seems like a natural outcome of running such a platform. The platform is trying to optimise revenue. They can choose which user complaints to support/reject but they can’t satisfy everyone.