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>once you hand over legitimately purchased tickets to people, you shouldn't be able to deny them entry because of anything that happened prior to the purchase.

>once you hand over legitimately purchased tickets to people, you shouldn't be able to deny them entry because of anything that happened prior to the purchase. Even if something happened prior to the purchase and I learn about it after the purchase? That seems oddly arbitrary.

josephcsible 4y ago
Flip the scenario around: you buy tickets to a sporting event. A few days later, shortly before the game, you learn that one of the players is a Putin fanboy and decide you don't want to support him. Can you make MSG take back your ticket and give you a refund?
- kspacewalk2 4y ago
  Maybe if I can successfully raise a stink on Twitter. Generally, no. Having thought of how this scenario works backwards, I discovered that I assumed the kicked out lawyers were issued a refund, but I have no evidence of it. If not, they ought to demand it.
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    > Having thought of how this scenario works backwards, I discovered that I assumed the kicked out lawyers were issued a refund, but I have no evidence of it. If not, they ought to demand it. The point of my example is that even if the victims were issued a refund, what MSG did is still wrong. Buyers don't get to unilaterally unwind ticket sales. Why should MSG get to do so?
    - kspacewalk2 4y ago
      Because they're the ones providing the service. As long as they don't keep the money, and as long as they're not breaking the anti-discrimination laws, I fail to see the problem.
      - josephcsible 4y ago
        So if you book a flight and hotel room to go see an event on the other side of the planet, when you get there, MSG can turn you away and tell you "here's your $100 ticket price back, but you're out the $3000 you spent to get here to see this"?
        kspacewalk2 4y ago
        Whatever reason they have to refund your ticket (say the band didn't show up), they'll always just refund your ticket, not any other expenses. If you want those refunded, you get travel insurance or something. Why should it be any different here?
        josephcsible 4y ago
        If I'm walking and you hit me with your car, it's you and your car insurance that has to pay my medical bills, not me and my health insurance. Why not stick to this model for everything else in society? If it's your fault I can't go to an event, you should have to pay for all of the expenses, not me.

josephcsible 4y ago

Flip the scenario around: you buy tickets to a sporting event. A few days later, shortly before the game, you learn that one of the players is a Putin fanboy and decide you don't want to support him. Can you make MSG take back your ticket and give you a refund?

kspacewalk2 4y ago
Maybe if I can successfully raise a stink on Twitter. Generally, no. Having thought of how this scenario works backwards, I discovered that I assumed the kicked out lawyers were issued a refund, but I have no evidence of it. If not, they ought to demand it.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > Having thought of how this scenario works backwards, I discovered that I assumed the kicked out lawyers were issued a refund, but I have no evidence of it. If not, they ought to demand it. The point of my example is that even if the victims were issued a refund, what MSG did is still wrong. Buyers don't get to unilaterally unwind ticket sales. Why should MSG get to do so?
  - kspacewalk2 4y ago
    Because they're the ones providing the service. As long as they don't keep the money, and as long as they're not breaking the anti-discrimination laws, I fail to see the problem.
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      So if you book a flight and hotel room to go see an event on the other side of the planet, when you get there, MSG can turn you away and tell you "here's your $100 ticket price back, but you're out the $3000 you spent to get here to see this"?
      - kspacewalk2 4y ago
        Whatever reason they have to refund your ticket (say the band didn't show up), they'll always just refund your ticket, not any other expenses. If you want those refunded, you get travel insurance or something. Why should it be any different here?
        josephcsible 4y ago
        If I'm walking and you hit me with your car, it's you and your car insurance that has to pay my medical bills, not me and my health insurance. Why not stick to this model for everything else in society? If it's your fault I can't go to an event, you should have to pay for all of the expenses, not me.