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2020 was different, we didn't have all the information that we've now at our finger tips. I agree with you that diet, exercise and lifestyle choices are all pa

2020 was different, we didn't have all the information that we've now at our finger tips. I agree with you that diet, exercise and lifestyle choices are all part of caring for your health Here in Germany there is a general focus on avoiding medical intervention as much as possible unless required. So much so that "Camille tea and hot pack" is a meme for healthcare here.

DoreenMichele 4y ago
FYI: Kamille = chamomile
- FlyingSnake 4y ago
  Genau
Semaphor 4y ago
Gargling sage tea for everything respiratory (I did that the one time I caught covid as well, only went to the doctor for the sickness slip), drinking ginger tea when coughing, a lot of sleep. Pretty much my treatment for almost every sickness I had in the last 5 years. My wife is from USA-like South Africa and thinks you need some kind of pharmaceutical for everything and us Germans are crazy ;)
- bamboozled 4y ago
  It's fairly similar in Japan. Japanese doctors are super adverse to prescribing anything, even painkillers after some type of accident, it's rare they will give you anything, even if your leg is broken. When I was there I didn't mind it personally, but it's hard to get good drugs if you do require them.
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    > it's rare they will give you anything, even if your leg is broken. Wow. And people think German doctors are extreme :D
    - FlyingSnake 4y ago
      A German doctor will probably prescribe an Ibuflam in this case, with warnings :-)
slaw 4y ago
We had the information at the very beginning. March 2020 on Theodore Roosevelt, out of 4,800 sailors one died with covid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_USS_Theodore_Roosevelt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_USS_The...
- ben_w 4y ago
  OTOH, Diamond Princess, 3711 on board, 712 infected, between 7 and 14 died ("from vs with" dispute as I understand it). There's a lot of differences between a navy crew and a luxury cruise ship, but IFR estimates for COVID still vary a lot by nation: 0.2-1.3% around the beginning of the pandemic, and even now the CFR (which is always higher as IFR accounts for unsymptomatic cases) is 1.9% in Brazil, 18%(!) in Yemen, 0.2% in Cyprus, and a bit less than 0.1% in Singapore: https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
  - slaw 4y ago
    Diamond Princess avarage age of passenger was 84. We had all the information.
    - ben_w 4y ago
      And the average age of people in Yemen is 20.2. Look, I get that old people are more vulnerable than young, and that's still true if I were to add the words "to COVID" to that statement. But you know what? That's not helpful on either a personal, community, national, nor global level; and saying we had "all the information" on the basis of stuff like that is about as accurate as saying "answers in Genesis" as a response to anything about evolution.

DoreenMichele 4y ago

FYI: Kamille = chamomile

FlyingSnake 4y ago
Genau

Semaphor 4y ago

Gargling sage tea for everything respiratory (I did that the one time I caught covid as well, only went to the doctor for the sickness slip), drinking ginger tea when coughing, a lot of sleep. Pretty much my treatment for almost every sickness I had in the last 5 years. My wife is from USA-like South Africa and thinks you need some kind of pharmaceutical for everything and us Germans are crazy ;)

bamboozled 4y ago
It's fairly similar in Japan. Japanese doctors are super adverse to prescribing anything, even painkillers after some type of accident, it's rare they will give you anything, even if your leg is broken. When I was there I didn't mind it personally, but it's hard to get good drugs if you do require them.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > it's rare they will give you anything, even if your leg is broken. Wow. And people think German doctors are extreme :D
  - FlyingSnake 4y ago
    A German doctor will probably prescribe an Ibuflam in this case, with warnings :-)

slaw 4y ago

We had the information at the very beginning. March 2020 on Theodore Roosevelt, out of 4,800 sailors one died with covid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_USS_Theodore_Roosevelt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_USS_The...

ben_w 4y ago
OTOH, Diamond Princess, 3711 on board, 712 infected, between 7 and 14 died ("from vs with" dispute as I understand it). There's a lot of differences between a navy crew and a luxury cruise ship, but IFR estimates for COVID still vary a lot by nation: 0.2-1.3% around the beginning of the pandemic, and even now the CFR (which is always higher as IFR accounts for unsymptomatic cases) is 1.9% in Brazil, 18%(!) in Yemen, 0.2% in Cyprus, and a bit less than 0.1% in Singapore: https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
- slaw 4y ago
  Diamond Princess avarage age of passenger was 84. We had all the information.
  - ben_w 4y ago
    And the average age of people in Yemen is 20.2. Look, I get that old people are more vulnerable than young, and that's still true if I were to add the words "to COVID" to that statement. But you know what? That's not helpful on either a personal, community, national, nor global level; and saying we had "all the information" on the basis of stuff like that is about as accurate as saying "answers in Genesis" as a response to anything about evolution.