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Why America will never give up on war

3 points by sfusato 4y ago

noduerme 4y ago
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- sfusato 4y ago
  Damn, what mental gymnastics you need to do to justify America's actions. True american logic.
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  - noduerme 4y ago
    Meet some Tibetans and ask them if America is as bad a place to live as China. Or ask Somalis or Ethiopians who live in America, or Russians and Ukrainians who live here, or Chinese dissidents, or anyone from Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia who fled to America, just how terrible America's actions were considering the final realities that befell their relatives in those places. Heck, ask Afghans, Lebanese, Iranians, Cubans, Venezuelans who live here. Do you think that other powers don't do much worse things in the parts of the world they control? Have you visited any countries that the US accepts refugees from?
  - verdverm 4y ago
    It's actually much simpler for most Americans. The US is the leader of freedom and democracy. The US supports and defends those ideals beyond its own borders. Is the US perfect? No, but what would the world look like today without their leadership? Who would stop the authoritarians from taking over their neighbors? The numbers are misleading, 8% budget increase is less than inflation and a large part of the aid package to Ukraine is hardware sitting in storage that's already been paid for, but they use the original sticker price.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 4y ago
  Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
bsaul 4y ago
About the « empty throne » : i recommend reading « le meurtre du pasteur », a philosophical book from Benny Levy (not sure it’s translated). A critic of all the classic philosopher theory and text that wanted to provide a philosophy outside of god. Very technical, but it’s a good gate to philosophy (if you can find TV interviews of the guy, he was also quite fun to hear). note: « benny » levy, not to be confused with « bernard-henri » who’s just a fraud.

3 points by sfusato 4y ago

noduerme 4y ago

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sfusato 4y ago
Damn, what mental gymnastics you need to do to justify America's actions. True american logic.
- deleted 4y ago
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- noduerme 4y ago
  Meet some Tibetans and ask them if America is as bad a place to live as China. Or ask Somalis or Ethiopians who live in America, or Russians and Ukrainians who live here, or Chinese dissidents, or anyone from Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia who fled to America, just how terrible America's actions were considering the final realities that befell their relatives in those places. Heck, ask Afghans, Lebanese, Iranians, Cubans, Venezuelans who live here. Do you think that other powers don't do much worse things in the parts of the world they control? Have you visited any countries that the US accepts refugees from?
- verdverm 4y ago
  It's actually much simpler for most Americans. The US is the leader of freedom and democracy. The US supports and defends those ideals beyond its own borders. Is the US perfect? No, but what would the world look like today without their leadership? Who would stop the authoritarians from taking over their neighbors? The numbers are misleading, 8% budget increase is less than inflation and a large part of the aid package to Ukraine is hardware sitting in storage that's already been paid for, but they use the original sticker price.
- dang 4y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 4y ago
Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

bsaul 4y ago

About the « empty throne » : i recommend reading « le meurtre du pasteur », a philosophical book from Benny Levy (not sure it’s translated). A critic of all the classic philosopher theory and text that wanted to provide a philosophy outside of god. Very technical, but it’s a good gate to philosophy (if you can find TV interviews of the guy, he was also quite fun to hear). note: « benny » levy, not to be confused with « bernard-henri » who’s just a fraud.