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So your argument here is that someone didn't have the money for housing and the coping mechanism the non-drug addict chose is to start doing drugs? Typed out t

So your argument here is that someone didn't have the money for housing and the coping mechanism the non-drug addict chose is to start doing drugs? Typed out that way, does that still make sense in your head? This is not your typical chick-and-egg type problem. Those who are not addicted to something tend to be off the street relatively quickly. It's those with pre-existing problems that don't, such as drugs, mental instability, etc. The over-representation of certain demographics amongst the homeless tells you full-stop this is true, such as war veterans.

slothtrop 4y ago
> So your argument here is that someone didn't have the money for housing and the coping mechanism the non-drug addict chose is to start doing drugs? Correct. Not overnight. > Typed out that way, does that still make sense in your head? Yes. It's not hard to get exposed in those circles. > Those who are not addicted to something tend to be off the street relatively quickly. Citation needed. > It's those with pre-existing problems that don't, such as drugs, mental instability, etc. Mental instability is self-medicated with drugs.
- tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
  > Mental instability is self-medicated with drugs. I'm guessing you've never seen directly or by proxy what happens when someone ends up in jail because they attacked a family member with a knife as a result of them going off their meds. I didn't say mental illness, I said mental instability. People with those sorts of mental instabilities find they have NO support structure because they're fundamentally unsafe to everyone but state actors. https://www.hudexchange.info/sites/onecpd/assets/File/CoC-System-Performance-Measure1-Video-Transcript.pdf https://www.hudexchange.info/sites/onecpd/assets/File/CoC-Sy... It gets even worse for you when you start to realize the how many people aren't even counted because they're homeless for mere days due to being kicked out, unexpected circumstances, etc. What you're thinking of are what's known as "chronically homeless" and your challenge is showing both that drug users are a significant portion of those who are homeless for under 100 days and that those who are not drug users are a significant portion of the chronically homeless.

slothtrop 4y ago

> So your argument here is that someone didn't have the money for housing and the coping mechanism the non-drug addict chose is to start doing drugs? Correct. Not overnight. > Typed out that way, does that still make sense in your head? Yes. It's not hard to get exposed in those circles. > Those who are not addicted to something tend to be off the street relatively quickly. Citation needed. > It's those with pre-existing problems that don't, such as drugs, mental instability, etc. Mental instability is self-medicated with drugs.

tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
> Mental instability is self-medicated with drugs. I'm guessing you've never seen directly or by proxy what happens when someone ends up in jail because they attacked a family member with a knife as a result of them going off their meds. I didn't say mental illness, I said mental instability. People with those sorts of mental instabilities find they have NO support structure because they're fundamentally unsafe to everyone but state actors. https://www.hudexchange.info/sites/onecpd/assets/File/CoC-System-Performance-Measure1-Video-Transcript.pdf https://www.hudexchange.info/sites/onecpd/assets/File/CoC-Sy... It gets even worse for you when you start to realize the how many people aren't even counted because they're homeless for mere days due to being kicked out, unexpected circumstances, etc. What you're thinking of are what's known as "chronically homeless" and your challenge is showing both that drug users are a significant portion of those who are homeless for under 100 days and that those who are not drug users are a significant portion of the chronically homeless.