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I used to have one that cost me around £200 and was alright but sounded pretty anaemic. I replaced it with one that cost around £600 and is way better. I love i

I used to have one that cost me around £200 and was alright but sounded pretty anaemic. I replaced it with one that cost around £600 and is way better. I love it. Comments of the form "price X is unreasonable because I'd never pay it" are mildly annoying. You're an individual, not a market, and as such don't get to choose what a "reasonable" price is. DAPs (digital audio players) are available at a wide range of prices. The top result for "MP3 player" on Amazon UK right now is £23.99. Choose a price point you're happy with and you'll find something. I love mine at the price point I went for. (I've also had one for around £50, bought a couple of ~£20 ones for my small children and owned a couple of different DAC dongles for my phone. Unsurprisingly, the sound quality is very highly correlated with the price, up to the level I've tried. I expect it levels out not far above, though, and if you decide to pay thousands for a DAP they'll make it out of gold-plated copper because there's nothing else left to use the money on. [1]) [1] https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/walkman/nw-wm1z https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/walkman/nw-wm1z

tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
> Comments of the form "price X is unreasonable because I'd never pay it" are mildly annoying. You're an individual, not a market, and as such don't get to choose what a "reasonable" price is. When my gf wanted an adjustable standing desk the going rate was roughly $600 for anything that had everything she wanted so I built it myself for maybe $200 and the thing is still being used regularly something like 8 years later. When I want a physical copy of an older PS2 game and they're all $100+, I pirate it. If _YOU_ want to outsource personal responsibility for your money, that's on you, don't lecture me because I choose not to. I can conclude that millions for a painting is unreasonable despite many people doing it because they're involved in money laundering just as well as anyone else.
- omnicognate 4y ago
  I seem to have got under your skin. It wasn't my intention and I apologise if I caused offense, but I don't retract what I said. You've described ways you've obtained things for less than market price in exchange for extra effort or legal risk, not reasons the market price should be anything other than what it is, which is determined by what people will pay, collectively.
  - tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
    two comments made by others in this conversation: > Ok, at that price point (or even a quarter of that) it ceases to be a music player to become a luxury good to be shown by paid influencers on social media. Nothing to see here, move along... > If you think that is bad, check out the Walkman NW-WM1ZM2 (who at Sony thinks that these names are a good idea?) for a cool $3500 Your response is what everyone will sound like once our robot overlords finally take over. It certainly didn't come from an understanding of the human condition.
    - omnicognate 4y ago
      Further examples of the same attitude. Such comments are common, which is why I find them "mildly annoying". I suggest you find a healthier pastime than getting upset about what other people are buying. In the meantime, I'll spend my money however I please. Maybe I'll buy a gold plated Walkman. They look shiny.
      - tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
        It's common for people to point out that something is overpriced?!? Why that can't be, after all, "the market" sez... And if I tell you that your obvious poking has angered me, will you feel sufficiently positive to walk away from this conversation? I guess we'll see.
        omnicognate 4y ago
        It's plain I angered you with my first reply, but it wasn't intended and I apologised. You replied rudely, so yes I had a bit of a poke, which I'm not particularly proud of. I don't try to wind people up and it doesn't give me pleasure to do so. It just seems especially easy in your case. It's possible to disagree with people on the internet without getting emotional about it. It's just a conversation about Walkmans. (Walkmen?)
        tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
- Tams80 4y ago
  Just build your own mp3 player/DAP then mate. You seem so proud of yourself, I'm sure you'd love it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago

> Comments of the form "price X is unreasonable because I'd never pay it" are mildly annoying. You're an individual, not a market, and as such don't get to choose what a "reasonable" price is. When my gf wanted an adjustable standing desk the going rate was roughly $600 for anything that had everything she wanted so I built it myself for maybe $200 and the thing is still being used regularly something like 8 years later. When I want a physical copy of an older PS2 game and they're all $100+, I pirate it. If _YOU_ want to outsource personal responsibility for your money, that's on you, don't lecture me because I choose not to. I can conclude that millions for a painting is unreasonable despite many people doing it because they're involved in money laundering just as well as anyone else.

omnicognate 4y ago
I seem to have got under your skin. It wasn't my intention and I apologise if I caused offense, but I don't retract what I said. You've described ways you've obtained things for less than market price in exchange for extra effort or legal risk, not reasons the market price should be anything other than what it is, which is determined by what people will pay, collectively.
- tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
  two comments made by others in this conversation: > Ok, at that price point (or even a quarter of that) it ceases to be a music player to become a luxury good to be shown by paid influencers on social media. Nothing to see here, move along... > If you think that is bad, check out the Walkman NW-WM1ZM2 (who at Sony thinks that these names are a good idea?) for a cool $3500 Your response is what everyone will sound like once our robot overlords finally take over. It certainly didn't come from an understanding of the human condition.
  - omnicognate 4y ago
    Further examples of the same attitude. Such comments are common, which is why I find them "mildly annoying". I suggest you find a healthier pastime than getting upset about what other people are buying. In the meantime, I'll spend my money however I please. Maybe I'll buy a gold plated Walkman. They look shiny.
    - tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
      It's common for people to point out that something is overpriced?!? Why that can't be, after all, "the market" sez... And if I tell you that your obvious poking has angered me, will you feel sufficiently positive to walk away from this conversation? I guess we'll see.
      - omnicognate 4y ago
        It's plain I angered you with my first reply, but it wasn't intended and I apologised. You replied rudely, so yes I had a bit of a poke, which I'm not particularly proud of. I don't try to wind people up and it doesn't give me pleasure to do so. It just seems especially easy in your case. It's possible to disagree with people on the internet without getting emotional about it. It's just a conversation about Walkmans. (Walkmen?)
        tjrDL6MjB2Zwwa 4y ago
Tams80 4y ago
Just build your own mp3 player/DAP then mate. You seem so proud of yourself, I'm sure you'd love it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯