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So what's the deal with Nokia these days? Android, iOS, Samsung, etc. are the new hotness, is Nokia a dinosaur who doesn't get that the world has changed? Or

So what's the deal with Nokia these days? Android, iOS, Samsung, etc. are the new hotness, is Nokia a dinosaur who doesn't get that the world has changed? Or do they have a potential to be an A player? Or are they an A player that just doesn't get as much mindshare?

nuttendorfer 15y ago
I think Nokia will once come out as the winner in this. Instead of putting all their eggs in one basket they try to diversify their lineup. While a lot of other companies focus on Android they work on the next thing. Sooner or later consumers will shy away from Android because "everybody has one" or whatever reason they might have - Nokia will then step in and cater to these people. Nokia, especially in Europe, has a lot of satisfied customers(The dumbphone market). If they manage to create a good blend of smart and dumbphones they will have the market.
- Samuel_Michon 15y ago
  "Nokia, especially in Europe, has a lot of satisfied customers(The dumbphone market)." In a couple of years, there won't really be a dumbphone market in Europe, except for drug dealers and the poorest of consumers. Already, more than half of all cellphones sold in Europe are smartphones, and it increases by 10 percentage points a year. Nokia's future lies in selling dumb phones to third world countries, and that's already where it makes its money. Nokia was smart to have Microsoft fill their coffers, but in the end, smartphones will never be Nokia's core business.
gahahaha 15y ago
"are they an A player that just doesn't get as much mindshare?" I think so. Via @mikko: Mobile web access marketshare changes in 2011: iOS: 25% -> 23% Android: 15% -> 22% Symbian: 30% -> 34% For real.
- Samuel_Michon 15y ago
  Those are numbers from Statcounter [1] and not conclusive by any standard. According to another web analytics company, Hitslink [2], Symbian mobile web usage share went from 8.9% to 5.8% in the last year. Also, even in Statcounter's numbers Symbian has little usage share to speak of in first world nations (6% in N-America, 10% in Europe, 4% in Oceania). [1] http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201012-201112 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201012-20111... [2] http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustomb=1 http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-shar...

nuttendorfer 15y ago

I think Nokia will once come out as the winner in this. Instead of putting all their eggs in one basket they try to diversify their lineup. While a lot of other companies focus on Android they work on the next thing. Sooner or later consumers will shy away from Android because "everybody has one" or whatever reason they might have - Nokia will then step in and cater to these people. Nokia, especially in Europe, has a lot of satisfied customers(The dumbphone market). If they manage to create a good blend of smart and dumbphones they will have the market.

Samuel_Michon 15y ago
"Nokia, especially in Europe, has a lot of satisfied customers(The dumbphone market)." In a couple of years, there won't really be a dumbphone market in Europe, except for drug dealers and the poorest of consumers. Already, more than half of all cellphones sold in Europe are smartphones, and it increases by 10 percentage points a year. Nokia's future lies in selling dumb phones to third world countries, and that's already where it makes its money. Nokia was smart to have Microsoft fill their coffers, but in the end, smartphones will never be Nokia's core business.

gahahaha 15y ago

"are they an A player that just doesn't get as much mindshare?" I think so. Via @mikko: Mobile web access marketshare changes in 2011: iOS: 25% -> 23% Android: 15% -> 22% Symbian: 30% -> 34% For real.

Samuel_Michon 15y ago
Those are numbers from Statcounter [1] and not conclusive by any standard. According to another web analytics company, Hitslink [2], Symbian mobile web usage share went from 8.9% to 5.8% in the last year. Also, even in Statcounter's numbers Symbian has little usage share to speak of in first world nations (6% in N-America, 10% in Europe, 4% in Oceania). [1] http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201012-201112 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201012-20111... [2] http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustomb=1 http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-shar...