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“Song of the South” is a full-length Disney film and the first to mix live action with animation. One might think with that historic meaning, it would be preser

“Song of the South” is a full-length Disney film and the first to mix live action with animation. One might think with that historic meaning, it would be preserved. But it’s impossible to find. Even eBay has banned sale of the DVD. Fortunately I have a copy my father ripped to DVD from some unknown source sometime in the 90s. It’s poor quality.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
If you look into it, Disney (because, well... money, not any actual guilt) actually sold VHS tapes from the 90s to the early 00s in many countries except the US. Many "bootleg" copies originate from them. You can find the VHS on eBay for ~$40-$50 from the UK.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  Interesting. I guess VHS is the low-quality source of my DVD rip.
  - gjsman-1000 4y ago
    Another thing you can look into, here's the secret words: Canción del sur. The film went public domain in Spain. And surprise, there's some boutique resellers in Spain who do DVDs and Blu-rays... and add language tracks... https://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Blu-Ray-Reg-Spain/dp/B09BDXRLNB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1450QI0W3UBIW&keywords=song+of+the+south&qid=1673820490&s=movies-tv&sprefix=song+of+the+south%2Cmovies-tv%2C117&sr=1-4 https://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Blu-Ray-Reg-Spain/dp/B09BD...
    - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
      Thanks!!
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  Also “ The Princess and the Frog “ and “ Mary Poppins “ (1964)
  - dmd 4y ago
    What about them? The Princess and the Frog is from 2009.
    - Retric 4y ago
      There’s many earlier versions of that story ex: “The Frog (1908)” But I don’t know which is being referred to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince
      - dmd 4y ago
        Sure. But the one titled The Princess and the Frog is 2009.
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        Retric 4y ago
        Yea, but it was a common way to describe the story before Disney titled their movie that way. So, I wasn’t sure if they where suggesting a VHS version of that 2009 movie existed, making reference to the meme around the 2009 movie being a throwback, or just something else.
irthomasthomas 4y ago
https://ok.ru/video/2507546102438 https://ok.ru/video/2507546102438
disillusioned 4y ago
I mean, it's available right here: https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD But also worth noting that it _wasn't_ the first to mix live action with animation. It had been used in shorts and experiments all the way back to 1900, but for a full-length film, Warner Bros. released You Ought to Be in Pictures in 1940. And The Three Cabelleros beat it by nearly two years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIBUlP3GC4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIBUlP3GC4 More on that history here: https://www.motionpictures.org/2013/07/from-gene-kelly-to-the-smurfs-2-a-brief-history-of-live-action-animation https://www.motionpictures.org/2013/07/from-gene-kelly-to-th...
squokko 4y ago
eBay banning the sale of the DVD is extremely dystopian
- ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
  Why is it an issue for eBay to ban it when there's already a list of prohibited categories of items? It's easy enough to download a copy of it if you're interested in banned items.
  - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
    Because it's a value judgement. It's one thing to say "we don't deal in porn and guns" but to then pick specific media they do deal in and say "oh and also this one" imparts the kind of fine-grained value judgement that it's inappropriate for an eCommerce platform to be making.
    - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
      I see your point, but there's also value judgements with other categories. How is an "adult" or "pornography" item defined? Personally, I don't have an issue with a business choosing to ban or allow items as it's their platform and their business choice. If they choose to not sell any lithium batteries due to their flammable nature, then that would also be acceptable and not in my mind dystopian. There's arguably some risk in being involved with sending potentially offensive media through the mail.
    - Feuilles_Mortes 4y ago
      it's a private company
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  Is there any more dystopian than Google editing Frank Zappa’s track listings because of a single track?

gjsman-1000 4y ago

If you look into it, Disney (because, well... money, not any actual guilt) actually sold VHS tapes from the 90s to the early 00s in many countries except the US. Many "bootleg" copies originate from them. You can find the VHS on eBay for ~$40-$50 from the UK.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
Interesting. I guess VHS is the low-quality source of my DVD rip.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  Another thing you can look into, here's the secret words: Canción del sur. The film went public domain in Spain. And surprise, there's some boutique resellers in Spain who do DVDs and Blu-rays... and add language tracks... https://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Blu-Ray-Reg-Spain/dp/B09BDXRLNB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1450QI0W3UBIW&keywords=song+of+the+south&qid=1673820490&s=movies-tv&sprefix=song+of+the+south%2Cmovies-tv%2C117&sr=1-4 https://www.amazon.com/Song-South-Blu-Ray-Reg-Spain/dp/B09BD...
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    Thanks!!
TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
Also “ The Princess and the Frog “ and “ Mary Poppins “ (1964)
- dmd 4y ago
  What about them? The Princess and the Frog is from 2009.
  - Retric 4y ago
    There’s many earlier versions of that story ex: “The Frog (1908)” But I don’t know which is being referred to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince
    - dmd 4y ago
      Sure. But the one titled The Princess and the Frog is 2009.
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      - Retric 4y ago
        Yea, but it was a common way to describe the story before Disney titled their movie that way. So, I wasn’t sure if they where suggesting a VHS version of that 2009 movie existed, making reference to the meme around the 2009 movie being a throwback, or just something else.

irthomasthomas 4y ago

https://ok.ru/video/2507546102438 https://ok.ru/video/2507546102438

disillusioned 4y ago

I mean, it's available right here: https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD But also worth noting that it _wasn't_ the first to mix live action with animation. It had been used in shorts and experiments all the way back to 1900, but for a full-length film, Warner Bros. released You Ought to Be in Pictures in 1940. And The Three Cabelleros beat it by nearly two years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIBUlP3GC4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIBUlP3GC4 More on that history here: https://www.motionpictures.org/2013/07/from-gene-kelly-to-the-smurfs-2-a-brief-history-of-live-action-animation https://www.motionpictures.org/2013/07/from-gene-kelly-to-th...

squokko 4y ago

eBay banning the sale of the DVD is extremely dystopian

ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
Why is it an issue for eBay to ban it when there's already a list of prohibited categories of items? It's easy enough to download a copy of it if you're interested in banned items.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Because it's a value judgement. It's one thing to say "we don't deal in porn and guns" but to then pick specific media they do deal in and say "oh and also this one" imparts the kind of fine-grained value judgement that it's inappropriate for an eCommerce platform to be making.
  - ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
    I see your point, but there's also value judgements with other categories. How is an "adult" or "pornography" item defined? Personally, I don't have an issue with a business choosing to ban or allow items as it's their platform and their business choice. If they choose to not sell any lithium batteries due to their flammable nature, then that would also be acceptable and not in my mind dystopian. There's arguably some risk in being involved with sending potentially offensive media through the mail.
  - Feuilles_Mortes 4y ago
    it's a private company
selimthegrim 4y ago
Is there any more dystopian than Google editing Frank Zappa’s track listings because of a single track?