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I mean, at this point why bother interacting with other people at all? Let's just have a collective of a few hundred chatGpt bots and pretend we're all a societ

by x86x87 4y ago

I mean, at this point why bother interacting with other people at all? Let's just have a collective of a few hundred chatGpt bots and pretend we're all a society. I am horrified of how easily we are dismissing things that are super hard because "ai can do it better". Therapy is one of those things were result vary widely and depend on the patient, the therapist and the setting. You ain't gonna get that from a machine - not with the way we are doing AI today.

voakbasda 4y ago
I’d much rather wait for an AI solution. To wit, I would rather tweak a set of configuration options than go through the process of dealing with the mental health industry. It is overpriced, unreliable, and unworthy of the trust that it requires. I would sooner trust a machine.
- x86x87 4y ago
  Yes and no. You're assuming that everyone has the mental and physical ability to deal with something like this. Most people are not technical enough for really really basic tech tasks. It is rare that you would find someone who is a good therapist and can write software. Even rarer that someone would actually invest the time to build you the software you could tweak.
  - voakbasda 4y ago
    I believe in the singularity, so I guess I meant to say AGI. Such an AI will learn to be a therapist the same way that we do. Even if it’s only as smart as a human, I would trust it more than a human. Because, yeah, I don’t trust humans to program an AI that I could ever trust, unless the model and training data are all made fully available for independent analysis. Tweaking the model would be telling it to favor certain paradigms over others.
    - x86x87 4y ago
      If (and it's a huge if) we ever get AGI we're either 1) screwed and the machines will remeber us like we remember cave people - ie footnote in the history "books" or 2) we will have a human + machine symbiosis where the AI will literally remove all out flaws. Either way, therapy will be useless. Also, IMHO we are at least 500 years from anything that resembles AGI - if it ever happens.
mansoon 4y ago
Yes.

by x86x87 4y ago

voakbasda 4y ago

I’d much rather wait for an AI solution. To wit, I would rather tweak a set of configuration options than go through the process of dealing with the mental health industry. It is overpriced, unreliable, and unworthy of the trust that it requires. I would sooner trust a machine.

x86x87 4y ago
Yes and no. You're assuming that everyone has the mental and physical ability to deal with something like this. Most people are not technical enough for really really basic tech tasks. It is rare that you would find someone who is a good therapist and can write software. Even rarer that someone would actually invest the time to build you the software you could tweak.
- voakbasda 4y ago
  I believe in the singularity, so I guess I meant to say AGI. Such an AI will learn to be a therapist the same way that we do. Even if it’s only as smart as a human, I would trust it more than a human. Because, yeah, I don’t trust humans to program an AI that I could ever trust, unless the model and training data are all made fully available for independent analysis. Tweaking the model would be telling it to favor certain paradigms over others.
  - x86x87 4y ago
    If (and it's a huge if) we ever get AGI we're either 1) screwed and the machines will remeber us like we remember cave people - ie footnote in the history "books" or 2) we will have a human + machine symbiosis where the AI will literally remove all out flaws. Either way, therapy will be useless. Also, IMHO we are at least 500 years from anything that resembles AGI - if it ever happens.

mansoon 4y ago

Yes.