As an observer reading this exchange, this is my take: > You both are focusing on situations where the parent is abusive. I'm looking at situations where the p

As an observer reading this exchange, this is my take: > You both are focusing on situations where the parent is abusive. I'm looking at situations where the parents are genuinely caring for the child A(n ignorant) parent can absolutely genuinely care for the child, and yet abuse them with medical neglect if they've been brainwashed into thinking that (some) medical care is bad, even when it's not. That's what is being discussed here. > As I pointed out earlier - what happens when the parent is well-educated, and knows better than to allow some treatment for the child, but the state decides otherwise and forces something that harms the child? This is the risk which we run when we allow the state to have final say. I think the bigger question is which risk is larger, that the parent is right or a state employing experts. I'm sure both risks exist, I'm not sure both are even remotely as likely and thus as dangerous. [0] [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/12/26/ohio-measles-outbreak-more-than-80-children-infected-as-fears-grow-of-growing-numbers-of-unvaccinated/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/12/26/oh...