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Misleading headline. "A group of state legislators propose a law" != "State ABC wants to XYZ" This is a law proposed by a small group of state legislators. Of
by JohnBooty 4y ago
Misleading headline. "A group of state legislators propose a law" != "State ABC wants to XYZ"
This is a law proposed by a small group of state legislators. Of course, all laws start as bills like this. But most bills never become law.
A more responsible and less sensationalistic story would talk about the level of support for such a bill, its chances of becoming actual law, its constitutionality, and so on.
This is newsworthy, but not when reported like this.
- remote_phone 4y agoCan we penalize sites that provide misleading headlines? I’m so sick of sites twisting the facts like this, if we could build a list of sites that don’t manipulate the facts and just present things straight I would love it.
- xnx 4y ago> Can we penalize sites that provide misleading headlines? Or the members that submit them
- ohjeez 4y agoWell as the OP on this one, I contemplated changing the headline (which was too long in any case)... but in other circumstances we get in trouble with a community for changing a headline to opine. I err on the side of "just report what the publication says" and let others (appropriately) criticize bad headline-writing.
- JohnBooty 4y agoChanging the headline is not encouraged/allowed on HN; the mods will usually (always?) change it to reflect the actual one. The issue here is that you linked to a low quality source. As I said, this is newsworthy IMO. But surely there was a better quality source you might have chosen.
- ohjeez 4y agoI shared the one I discovered. Please don't take this the wrong way, but sincerely -- how much investigation do you expect someone to do?
- verdverm 4y agoIf you are willing to share some controversial or questionable piece of news on HN, it might be worth looking for alternative sources. Is it that hard to do a couple of searches rather than submitting the low-quality one with zero extra effort? Do you not want to be better informed yourself anyways?
- ohjeez 4y agoWhile the headline was imperfect, the article had the key piece up-front: someone submitted a bill with this premise. That was enough for my needs. If the community is interested in the topic, typically the comments point to more germane information, backstory, and other data that supports/refutes what an article says. That's a healthy behavior, and it's why online communities remain popular.
- verdverm 4y agoDo you think the community and dialogue would, on average, improve if submission quality was increased?
- ohjeez 4y agoThat's what the voting buttons are for. Submission quality is in the eye of the beholder.
- JohnBooty 4y agoIt takes community effort to make up for poor quality submissions. Effort that could be better spent. A number of people have attempted to give you kind and constructive feedback. You appear immune to it.
- belter 4y agoWyoming is 70 % Republican, the legislators proposing it are Republican and these are not just created on a whim. The conversations ensuring support already happened. It seems Wyoming requires just a simple majority. https://wyoleg.gov/Legislation/2023/SJ0004 https://wyoleg.gov/Legislation/2023/SJ0004 The flagging of the article is not justified. There is more here than just a politician conversation or controversial interview.