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I have no idea why they even try anymore? There was an UN vote to try to stop the sanction against cuba... the result? 185 vs 2 - 185 to stop the sanctions, 2

I have no idea why they even try anymore? There was an UN vote to try to stop the sanction against cuba... the result? 185 vs 2 - 185 to stop the sanctions, 2 (brazil, ukraine) abstained and 2 countries voted to continue the sanctions (israel and of course USA). Until this becomes an internal USA issue affecting the elections, and when the propaganda doesn't help anymore with that, things will change... but for now, nothing will happen, waterbordings will continue while the politicians point fingers at other countries for stuff way less sever than whan usa has done in the last few decades.

reducesuffering 4y ago
Isn't this because Florida is likely to make or break the US Presidential election? There are many ex-Cubans in the Miami area that despise the current Cuban government. Enough, that as a bloc they can decide the election and they will mostly vote for whoever's policy is against the Cuban government. Either party defecting from status quo to drop sanctions will just be handing the US government to the other party.
- the_only_law 4y ago
  Is Florida really a swing state anymore? It seems Georgia and maybe NC are the new battlegrounds. I’ve lived in all of those states and it has been interesting to see.
  - reducesuffering 4y ago
    Well, it's currently a "must-win" for Republicans that's reasonably close, so first and foremost they won't be the ones to upset their chances at all. In the last election, it wasn't razor-thin like Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, or NC, but if the Democrats lose a few of those then they need the next runner-up like Florida. Florida was Democrat in '08, '12, and only lost by 1.29% in '16. With Republicans winning Florida by 3.36% in 2020, maybe Cuba's best chance is for Florida to actually be a lost cause to Democrats so that they go ahead with dropping the sanctions. Although, Democrats won '08 by 3% and still flipped the other way, so it's very possible to consider it fair game. If true, I've discovered why voting for your opposite choice could be a valid option if you care about a specific issue like this.
  - aj7 4y ago
    No, it isn’t. The Florida Democratic Party is the equivalent of a 2-15 team in American football. Zero talent, zero bench, zero promising newcomers, to first order.
- aj7 4y ago
  Historically, you are exactly right.

reducesuffering 4y ago

Isn't this because Florida is likely to make or break the US Presidential election? There are many ex-Cubans in the Miami area that despise the current Cuban government. Enough, that as a bloc they can decide the election and they will mostly vote for whoever's policy is against the Cuban government. Either party defecting from status quo to drop sanctions will just be handing the US government to the other party.

the_only_law 4y ago
Is Florida really a swing state anymore? It seems Georgia and maybe NC are the new battlegrounds. I’ve lived in all of those states and it has been interesting to see.
- reducesuffering 4y ago
  Well, it's currently a "must-win" for Republicans that's reasonably close, so first and foremost they won't be the ones to upset their chances at all. In the last election, it wasn't razor-thin like Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, or NC, but if the Democrats lose a few of those then they need the next runner-up like Florida. Florida was Democrat in '08, '12, and only lost by 1.29% in '16. With Republicans winning Florida by 3.36% in 2020, maybe Cuba's best chance is for Florida to actually be a lost cause to Democrats so that they go ahead with dropping the sanctions. Although, Democrats won '08 by 3% and still flipped the other way, so it's very possible to consider it fair game. If true, I've discovered why voting for your opposite choice could be a valid option if you care about a specific issue like this.
- aj7 4y ago
  No, it isn’t. The Florida Democratic Party is the equivalent of a 2-15 team in American football. Zero talent, zero bench, zero promising newcomers, to first order.
aj7 4y ago
Historically, you are exactly right.