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Isn’t most of the value here in not allowing sideloading? In iOS your grandma/child cannot be tricked into clicking “allow apps from untrusted sources”, which i

by lrem 4y ago

Isn’t most of the value here in not allowing sideloading? In iOS your grandma/child cannot be tricked into clicking “allow apps from untrusted sources”, which is how most breaches happen.

gkbrk 4y ago
If the apps sandboxed, how can installing an app cause breaches? As far as I know, iOS apps are sandboxed. Either the sandbox is very weak and Apple instead relies on App Store audits, or they disallow users installing apps outside the app store to protect their 30% tax that makes them a LOT of money.
- Consultant32452 4y ago
  The sandboxes are regularly breached. Basically any time you hear about people "rooting" their phones, that's an intentional sandbox breach.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    Not always. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't breach the sandbox since it factory resets the device.
- lrem 4y ago
  When you’re tricked into installing a nasty app, you’re likely also tricked into giving it whatever permissions it needs for the nastiness.
  - phyphy 4y ago
    Which is not the fault of the OS
    - fragmede 4y ago
      who's fault is it then, if not the OS? that's basically the os's job; to isolate and manage the system's resources and access to them therin
      - qu4z-2 4y ago
        At the direction of the device owner, though.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    the malicious app, even signed off the app store could also exploit unpublished vulnerabilities to gain elevated access and not require asking for permission. even or especially if it's not a full sandbox escape.
rkachowski 4y ago
Is that true? the process of sideloading and running a 3rd party app is pretty far from simple, trivial or even easy to explain to a grandma / child.
abirch 4y ago
I think Apple will have to allow different stores in Europe soon. It'll be interesting to see what happens.