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Not sure what political climate has to do with anything here?

metadat 4y ago
Some of the jokes and themes therein are now widely considered racist, forbidden, or otherwise *-ist, and were founded on now banned or socially unacceptable concepts, assumptions, or thoughts. Obvious cases are the transphobia portrayed at the end of Ace Venture: Pet Detective when Jim Carey's character reacted to the Chief of Poice having taken measures to conceal her physical gender identity, or the manipulating a blind child into buying a dead bird with it's head duct taped to the neck in Dumb and Dumber. It comes down to respecting others and I get that. I consider myself a supporter of all well-intentioned human beings and intelligent species and entities at large, yet I still can't stop laughing about all kinds of immature stuff, including when myself or my spouse step in dog crap. I'm sensitive but generally have tended towards trying to focus on self-acceptance and surrounding myself with people who are understanding but also won't put up with too much. What should I do? Suggestions welcome.
- bitwize 4y ago
  You're doing the right thing. Some of the humor you enjoyed is dated, based on outdated ideas and stereotypes that perpetuate marginalization, othering, and dehumanization of certain groups and we should limit young people's exposure to that kind of material and, at a minimum, contextualize it for adults. And hey, maybe Ace Ventura needs to permanently go into the Warner Bros. Water Tower like Song of the South went permanently into the Disney Vault. One of my favorite cartoon shows (and the source of the technical term "yak shaving"), The Ren and Stimpy Show, was created by an emotional abuser who eventually became a rapist of underage girls. I cannot really enjoy the show the same way anymore, in light of this knowledge. It's not "cancel culture", it's a natural reaction to material that, in retrospect, is disrespectful or was created by horrid people.
  - lotsoweiners 4y ago
    Meh…I have Ace Ventura on my Plex and plan to show it to my 10 year old in a year or so. People can still enjoy things that weirdos on the internet consider “outdated”.
    - edgyquant 4y ago
      That authoritarians on the internet push as outdated or dehumanizing I think you mean. They aren’t outdated the authoritarians have just been winning.
      - antifa 4y ago
        "Authoritarianism is when you make the personal choice not to watch Ace Ventura again."
  - edgyquant 4y ago
    No he isnt. Keeping quiet when you think the pushed narrative is wrong is not the right thing. There is not a thing wrong with Ace Venture and if you think that’s “violent” then you are the problem not Ace Ventura. What the OP should do is push back against comments like yours who equate jokes we all laughed at with dehumanization. They were jokes that informed our humanity.
- callmekit 4y ago
  What's controversial about Sim City?
dec0dedab0de 4y ago
They all have lines that we're repeated quite a bit on the playground, but would be considered offensive by today's standards.

Some of the jokes and themes therein are now widely considered racist, forbidden, or otherwise *-ist, and were founded on now banned or socially unacceptable concepts, assumptions, or thoughts. Obvious cases are the transphobia portrayed at the end of Ace Venture: Pet Detective when Jim Carey's character reacted to the Chief of Poice having taken measures to conceal her physical gender identity, or the manipulating a blind child into buying a dead bird with it's head duct taped to the neck in Dumb and Dumber. It comes down to respecting others and I get that. I consider myself a supporter of all well-intentioned human beings and intelligent species and entities at large, yet I still can't stop laughing about all kinds of immature stuff, including when myself or my spouse step in dog crap. I'm sensitive but generally have tended towards trying to focus on self-acceptance and surrounding myself with people who are understanding but also won't put up with too much. What should I do? Suggestions welcome.

bitwize 4y ago
You're doing the right thing. Some of the humor you enjoyed is dated, based on outdated ideas and stereotypes that perpetuate marginalization, othering, and dehumanization of certain groups and we should limit young people's exposure to that kind of material and, at a minimum, contextualize it for adults. And hey, maybe Ace Ventura needs to permanently go into the Warner Bros. Water Tower like Song of the South went permanently into the Disney Vault. One of my favorite cartoon shows (and the source of the technical term "yak shaving"), The Ren and Stimpy Show, was created by an emotional abuser who eventually became a rapist of underage girls. I cannot really enjoy the show the same way anymore, in light of this knowledge. It's not "cancel culture", it's a natural reaction to material that, in retrospect, is disrespectful or was created by horrid people.
- lotsoweiners 4y ago
  Meh…I have Ace Ventura on my Plex and plan to show it to my 10 year old in a year or so. People can still enjoy things that weirdos on the internet consider “outdated”.
  - edgyquant 4y ago
    That authoritarians on the internet push as outdated or dehumanizing I think you mean. They aren’t outdated the authoritarians have just been winning.
    - antifa 4y ago
      "Authoritarianism is when you make the personal choice not to watch Ace Ventura again."
- edgyquant 4y ago
  No he isnt. Keeping quiet when you think the pushed narrative is wrong is not the right thing. There is not a thing wrong with Ace Venture and if you think that’s “violent” then you are the problem not Ace Ventura. What the OP should do is push back against comments like yours who equate jokes we all laughed at with dehumanization. They were jokes that informed our humanity.
callmekit 4y ago
What's controversial about Sim City?

dec0dedab0de 4y ago

They all have lines that we're repeated quite a bit on the playground, but would be considered offensive by today's standards.