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At what point will society stop accepting this ridiculous behaviour? At what point will this shit become taboo? In 2019, i was looking for a job as a software

At what point will society stop accepting this ridiculous behaviour? At what point will this shit become taboo? In 2019, i was looking for a job as a software developer and experienced something quite similar to what Jessica (the protagonist of the article) experienced. There's so much ritualistic bs that has absolutely nothing to do with the job that we have to put up with when interviewing! Why does my employer need to know my thoughts on those weird sophisticated-sounding questions? What value do these ridiculous "team games" they make us play with other candidates bring? It shows "team work" capabilities, some might say, but the games feel like games you play at Kindergarten and seem to be confusing and awkward for no reason I have a feeling this process isn't going to help you hire the "right candidate"; rather, the candidate that bullshited their way through thr process and manipulated the HR employees the best. Doing job interviews seems to have become a skill of its own. Maybe we should start putting "can manipulate HR effectively" on our CVs Fortunately, my current employer was the exact opposite; they only gave me one interview with HR and then one interview with who became my boss, and there was no bs involved. I am so happy with them and our HR department.

lithos 4y ago
When workers expect 50K a year per interview stage. Higher pay needs higher risk mitigation after all.
- friendlyHornet 4y ago
  I don't see how these ridiculous occult rituals mitigate risk. They only prove the candidate is desperate enough for a job to put themselves through it (which is what I was when I put myself through it since it was going to be my first job). Is their any evidence it says anything about employee retention? I feel much more loyal to the employer I ended up with (still my current employer since 2019), who has a no-bullshit hr department
  - lylejantzi3rd 4y ago
    > I don't see how these ridiculous occult rituals mitigate risk. They don't, but they make the hiring manager feel like it does. It calms the lizard part of the brain.
tsuujin 4y ago
I worked really hard with my current company to reinvent our software engineer interview process, taking it down from weeks of multiple interviews and a full day test to something we could do in one 3 hour sitting (or break up if the candidate wanted). I can tell you that even when the recruiters said they wanted it, and my bosses said they wanted it, and I got great feedback… there was still a lot of friction before I could actually make it happen. We are very vested into the “prove you want it” mindset, and there is a lot of ego in believing that you are so important and distinguished that you need 20 interviews to make sure you only get the best of the best.

lithos 4y ago

When workers expect 50K a year per interview stage. Higher pay needs higher risk mitigation after all.

friendlyHornet 4y ago
I don't see how these ridiculous occult rituals mitigate risk. They only prove the candidate is desperate enough for a job to put themselves through it (which is what I was when I put myself through it since it was going to be my first job). Is their any evidence it says anything about employee retention? I feel much more loyal to the employer I ended up with (still my current employer since 2019), who has a no-bullshit hr department
- lylejantzi3rd 4y ago
  > I don't see how these ridiculous occult rituals mitigate risk. They don't, but they make the hiring manager feel like it does. It calms the lizard part of the brain.

tsuujin 4y ago

I worked really hard with my current company to reinvent our software engineer interview process, taking it down from weeks of multiple interviews and a full day test to something we could do in one 3 hour sitting (or break up if the candidate wanted). I can tell you that even when the recruiters said they wanted it, and my bosses said they wanted it, and I got great feedback… there was still a lot of friction before I could actually make it happen. We are very vested into the “prove you want it” mindset, and there is a lot of ego in believing that you are so important and distinguished that you need 20 interviews to make sure you only get the best of the best.