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I was actually an off grid child. My parents were hippies back in the 60's and part of the "back to the land" movement. They bought a bit of land in the middle

I was actually an off grid child. My parents were hippies back in the 60's and part of the "back to the land" movement. They bought a bit of land in the middle of nowhere in Maine, miles from the nearest neighbors, built a log cabin, dug a well, and lived there subsistence farming until the mid 80's. My sister was born in the cabin and we both spent our early childhoods there (my parents did eventually get tired of the lifestyle and we moved to a house with plumbing and electricity). We didn't even have things like solar panels or cellphones or laptops. There were definitely challenges and downsides, but I wouldn't call it "child endangerment".

unnouinceput 4y ago
And in ancient times people were living on the land, they didn't had even your log cabin and so on. Your point is not valid. Because we talk current times. Nowadays you go back to living deliberately, especially when you can afford New York, to a farm without anything modern then you're definitely raising your child without best chances in life. I'd call that child endangerment. Your kid will not have the best education you can definitely provide, and it's starting with a handicap in life. So yeah, your point comparing 60's with today is moot.
- thraxil 4y ago
  > Your point is not valid. Which point? That we didn't have solar panels, cellphones, etc? Because I'm pretty sure we didn't. Or that "off grid" living with children isn't necessarily "child endangerment"? We had much fewer amenities than most of the current "off grid" people and yet my childhood was perfectly safe, loving, and I developed into an adult with an Ivy League degree and good career in technology. I turned out better than a lot of kids whose parents had high paying jobs and used money to replace actual affection and time spent with them. Where do you draw the line on "raising your child without best chances in life"? If you don't buy them the absolute latest iPhone and fashionable clothes so they can be popular in their schools is that child endangerment? If you don't take a second job so you can get them into a more expensive private school, is that child endangerment? You said that you "want a story like this from a family with children". It seems like what you meant was that you want a story like this from a family with children that supports your own conclusions, not one that might refute them.

unnouinceput 4y ago

And in ancient times people were living on the land, they didn't had even your log cabin and so on. Your point is not valid. Because we talk current times. Nowadays you go back to living deliberately, especially when you can afford New York, to a farm without anything modern then you're definitely raising your child without best chances in life. I'd call that child endangerment. Your kid will not have the best education you can definitely provide, and it's starting with a handicap in life. So yeah, your point comparing 60's with today is moot.

thraxil 4y ago
> Your point is not valid. Which point? That we didn't have solar panels, cellphones, etc? Because I'm pretty sure we didn't. Or that "off grid" living with children isn't necessarily "child endangerment"? We had much fewer amenities than most of the current "off grid" people and yet my childhood was perfectly safe, loving, and I developed into an adult with an Ivy League degree and good career in technology. I turned out better than a lot of kids whose parents had high paying jobs and used money to replace actual affection and time spent with them. Where do you draw the line on "raising your child without best chances in life"? If you don't buy them the absolute latest iPhone and fashionable clothes so they can be popular in their schools is that child endangerment? If you don't take a second job so you can get them into a more expensive private school, is that child endangerment? You said that you "want a story like this from a family with children". It seems like what you meant was that you want a story like this from a family with children that supports your own conclusions, not one that might refute them.