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It's not about you. It's about the society. And I'm fine if people don't like this but I already said what this is: antisocial.

phpisthebest 4y ago
Absolutely not, infact believing government == social would be itself antisocial There is nothing social about government, government is force, government is coercion You can not claim to replace personal responsibility, community, family, etc with a system of governance that by its very nature achieves is objective exclusively by the threat of violence on a population as being the more "social" way to have a society Social societies are bound by a sense of community and voluntary action, not by government mandates and regulations enforced by police and regulators. Government is Anti-Social.
- Demotio 4y ago
  We all wouldn't be were we are without a stable social structure. The structure is necessary to find the right people who are then able to change the world. You know the poor kid who got fed and support from school etc despite it's upbringing which then studies and finds a cancer treatment. But hey who cares right? I mean look at everything you actually own in your flat or house: non of it comes from your family and you clearly find it totally fine that other people are working for you and you probably despite that they also want to have a good live because this is also social and happens through gov and not through the free market. Gov is the opposition to pure capitalism and gov is us the people.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    >>without a stable social structure. And you believe that is Government? and not just any government a draconian top down government that function as a substituted for parents from cradle to grave sapping all free will and freedom from citizens? >>You know the poor kid who got fed and support from school etc despite it's upbringing which then studies and finds a cancer treatment. that is a good fairy tale... where is the reality >>actually own in your flat European... Now I am getting a clearer picture with your relationship with government, you place government over the people. Where by I place people over the government. I see government as a necessary evil and not something that should be admired History has more examples of my worldview being closer to reality then your utopia view of government being a net good >>non of it comes from your family and you Some of it does, I come from a line of tradesman that do actually build things, including homes. I also work in manufacturing sector that actually does build things.. physical things... That said, it does not really matter, these things exist due to VOLUNTARY EXCHANGE due to markets not because of coordination of government. "None of the thousands of persons involved in producing the pencil performed his task because he wanted a pencil. Some among them never saw a pencil and would not know what it is for. Each saw his work as a way to get the goods and services he wanted—goods and services we produced in order to get the pencil we wanted. Every time we go to the store and buy a pencil, we are exchanging a little bit of our services for the infinitesimal amount of services that each of the thousands contributed toward producing the pencil. It is even more astounding that the pencil was ever produced. No one sitting in a central office gave orders to these thousands of people. No military police enforced the orders that were not given. These people live in many lands, speak different languages, practice different religions, may even hate one another— yet none of these differences prevented them from cooperating to produce a pencil. How did it happen? Adam Smith gave us the answer two hundred years ago." -- [1] Afterword of I, Pencil [1] https://fee.org/resources/i-pencil/ https://fee.org/resources/i-pencil/

phpisthebest 4y ago

Absolutely not, infact believing government == social would be itself antisocial There is nothing social about government, government is force, government is coercion You can not claim to replace personal responsibility, community, family, etc with a system of governance that by its very nature achieves is objective exclusively by the threat of violence on a population as being the more "social" way to have a society Social societies are bound by a sense of community and voluntary action, not by government mandates and regulations enforced by police and regulators. Government is Anti-Social.

Demotio 4y ago
We all wouldn't be were we are without a stable social structure. The structure is necessary to find the right people who are then able to change the world. You know the poor kid who got fed and support from school etc despite it's upbringing which then studies and finds a cancer treatment. But hey who cares right? I mean look at everything you actually own in your flat or house: non of it comes from your family and you clearly find it totally fine that other people are working for you and you probably despite that they also want to have a good live because this is also social and happens through gov and not through the free market. Gov is the opposition to pure capitalism and gov is us the people.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >>without a stable social structure. And you believe that is Government? and not just any government a draconian top down government that function as a substituted for parents from cradle to grave sapping all free will and freedom from citizens? >>You know the poor kid who got fed and support from school etc despite it's upbringing which then studies and finds a cancer treatment. that is a good fairy tale... where is the reality >>actually own in your flat European... Now I am getting a clearer picture with your relationship with government, you place government over the people. Where by I place people over the government. I see government as a necessary evil and not something that should be admired History has more examples of my worldview being closer to reality then your utopia view of government being a net good >>non of it comes from your family and you Some of it does, I come from a line of tradesman that do actually build things, including homes. I also work in manufacturing sector that actually does build things.. physical things... That said, it does not really matter, these things exist due to VOLUNTARY EXCHANGE due to markets not because of coordination of government. "None of the thousands of persons involved in producing the pencil performed his task because he wanted a pencil. Some among them never saw a pencil and would not know what it is for. Each saw his work as a way to get the goods and services he wanted—goods and services we produced in order to get the pencil we wanted. Every time we go to the store and buy a pencil, we are exchanging a little bit of our services for the infinitesimal amount of services that each of the thousands contributed toward producing the pencil. It is even more astounding that the pencil was ever produced. No one sitting in a central office gave orders to these thousands of people. No military police enforced the orders that were not given. These people live in many lands, speak different languages, practice different religions, may even hate one another— yet none of these differences prevented them from cooperating to produce a pencil. How did it happen? Adam Smith gave us the answer two hundred years ago." -- [1] Afterword of I, Pencil [1] https://fee.org/resources/i-pencil/ https://fee.org/resources/i-pencil/