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I'm in a rural area that also turns into snow and ice one third of the year. I am not opposed to riding a horse into town, in fact I would prefer it. If addin

I'm in a rural area that also turns into snow and ice one third of the year. I am not opposed to riding a horse into town, in fact I would prefer it. If adding penalties for ICE vehicles then I would expect first there to be more places I can tie up my horse and I suspect the local town will have to implement dumping stations for all the horse poop. I guess there is also horse-gas emissions to consider. I can feed them things to reduce gas. Another option would be an EV albeit sub-optimal. I've been looking at getting an EV side-by-side. [1] There are several street legal options. Many here use side-by-sides to go into town. The EV cars have a long ways to go before I will consider one. Highly dystopian telemetry, standard features sold as subscriptions, battery tech is still ancient in my opinion, too many features and too many attempts to make the cars self driving and the tech just isn't ready. The EV side-by-sides are still a bit pricey and it would be entirely useless for going up into the mountains as the range / battery tech is still ancient. Producing this EV also emits a lot of emissions. To be carbon neutral might take a lifetime, especially when having to replace the batteries. It gets really cold here so I would need batteries that can handle it and Lithiom Ion requires heat pads so I will be using more solar/grid power. I do not get much solar power here. I am starting to see EV's as shiny luxury golf carts but that is just my take. I could just walk. It's only a few miles into town but then I would have to make many trips and pulling a cart of groceries through ice and snow is much harder than one might imagine. Even pushing a shopping cart 50 feet when I have a few bags of oats and the store was too cheap to clear the ice from their parking lot is quite comical and quite a workout. Walking along the highway is super dangerous in the winter. There are no buses or trains anywhere near me and I doubt that there ever would be. People here are expected to have snow capable vehicles. I've thought of e-bikes with super-fat snow tires. It turns out those don't work so great. I have a neighbor that tried it and they just went back to using their truck. [1] - https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/ranger/2022/ranger-ev/ https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/ranger/2022/ranger-ev...

TheCoelacanth 4y ago
So you expect that the world the cost of your lifestyle choices at no cost to you? Why shouldn't you pay for the cost of your choice to live in a rural area?
- LinuxBender 4y ago
  So you expect that the world the cost of your lifestyle choices at no cost to you? Absolutely, yes. I chose the path of freedom as in governments, geopolitics, philosophy and ethics keep to themselves for the most part. I could not in my wildest dreams make a dent positive or negative on the global air quality even if I bought the biggest diesel engine, deleted all the emissions systems and drove up and down the highway twelve hours a day. That said I do not do that. I rarely leave the house. Why shouldn't you pay for the cost of your choice to live in a rural area? The cost of living in a rural area is having to be more self sufficient which I am making a significant effort to be so I am doing my part. I see no reason that big city cultures should impose their lifestyle choices and fallout from their mistakes upon me. Air quality in big cities is horrible and I moved away from that. I suggest everyone that can get out of big cities do so. Big cities are unhealthy in many ways, air quality being only one of them. Big cities were important at the start of the industrial age. I believe we are leaving that age and moving into something else though I am not sure what to call it. In the case of tech it won't be long before people can live in just about any part of their country including in very rural areas. I envision a hybrid of industrial and rural agrarian lifestyles where people can be more self sufficient and also contribute to the whole economy. This pretty much as to happen as boomers are retiring, gen-x is tiny and that doesn't leave many people to contribute to the economy. People will have to get back to growing families and that is very challenging in cities whereas kids can be free labor in rural areas.

TheCoelacanth 4y ago

So you expect that the world the cost of your lifestyle choices at no cost to you? Why shouldn't you pay for the cost of your choice to live in a rural area?

LinuxBender 4y ago
So you expect that the world the cost of your lifestyle choices at no cost to you? Absolutely, yes. I chose the path of freedom as in governments, geopolitics, philosophy and ethics keep to themselves for the most part. I could not in my wildest dreams make a dent positive or negative on the global air quality even if I bought the biggest diesel engine, deleted all the emissions systems and drove up and down the highway twelve hours a day. That said I do not do that. I rarely leave the house. Why shouldn't you pay for the cost of your choice to live in a rural area? The cost of living in a rural area is having to be more self sufficient which I am making a significant effort to be so I am doing my part. I see no reason that big city cultures should impose their lifestyle choices and fallout from their mistakes upon me. Air quality in big cities is horrible and I moved away from that. I suggest everyone that can get out of big cities do so. Big cities are unhealthy in many ways, air quality being only one of them. Big cities were important at the start of the industrial age. I believe we are leaving that age and moving into something else though I am not sure what to call it. In the case of tech it won't be long before people can live in just about any part of their country including in very rural areas. I envision a hybrid of industrial and rural agrarian lifestyles where people can be more self sufficient and also contribute to the whole economy. This pretty much as to happen as boomers are retiring, gen-x is tiny and that doesn't leave many people to contribute to the economy. People will have to get back to growing families and that is very challenging in cities whereas kids can be free labor in rural areas.