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The only thing I have to add is that your MDMA might have been cut with something. Never take anything that you haven't tested, or where you trust the person yo

The only thing I have to add is that your MDMA might have been cut with something. Never take anything that you haven't tested, or where you trust the person you got it from to have tested it. Testing is cheap and easy and could save your life. Always know what you're taking.

wintermutestwin 4y ago
>Testing is cheap and easy I had a college student who came to me as a trusted adult and asked about E (because their friends were doing it while in the Netherlands). I told them what I knew about the drug and that they should always test it. When asked "how do I do that," I was at a loss and couldn't find any useful info by searching sites that I wasn't afraid to browse. How does one get a legit testing kit without exposing themselves to risk?
- skyyler 4y ago
  https://rollsafe.org/mdma-test-kits/ https://rollsafe.org/mdma-test-kits/ rollsafe is a fantastic resource for harm reduction information. They have links to test kits from various retailers and instructions on how to use them. They also have a page detailing a stack of supplements you can take to allegedly reduce the neurotoxicity of MDMA. I don’t know about the veracity of that information but the test kit info is spot-on.
  - wintermutestwin 4y ago
    But isn't buying these kits online essentially just a way to add yourself to a list of people who do illegal drugs? Maybe I am just overly paranoid, but I'd hate to see some college kid have their future ruined over something that shouldn't be, but is a crime.
    - Eisenstein 4y ago
      Some paranoia is rational but in this case I would judge the potential risks: (I) extremely low probability of 'future' problems involving ordering testing kits which are not themselves illegal (II) high probability of youths doing illegal drugs (III) extremely high probability of illegal drugs being impure (IV) moderate probability of impurities being dangerous
    - skyyler 4y ago
      You're already on the list of people who might do illegal drugs by asking this question. Part of the reason I linked the page I did is because they go out of their way to provide options that are LEGAL in the areas they're being shipped to.
hgsgm 4y ago
This is impractical. It's like saying "get drunk, but don't drink and drive". Once you are high, you lose your ability to make good judgements.
- hermitdev 4y ago
  As a former heavy drinker, drinking responsibly is more about planning ahead while you're sober so you don't have to rely upon your drunk self to make the right call. Going to a bar? Take a cab or walk _to_ the bar, so you don't even have a car to drive home. Or, stay in and drink at home with friends and plan on the friends staying over the night. You're right, though: put yourself in a situation where your drunk/high self needs to be responsible, and you're asking for trouble.
- bastawhiz 4y ago
  If you've already lost your ability to make those kinds of judgements, you've probably already had to much. That's not a problem you can work on in the moment, but it's something to reflect on when you're sober. If you don't know what you're putting into your body, you're always making an irresponsible choice. You're trusting someone to tell you how it will affect you, how much is safe, and what the side effects will be. Plenty of women know that trusting someone to give you the substance you think you're getting can mean getting taken advantage of. Being high doesn't implicitly eliminate all of your self control. As impractical as it might be, the smallest bit of planning and caution can save your life.

wintermutestwin 4y ago

>Testing is cheap and easy I had a college student who came to me as a trusted adult and asked about E (because their friends were doing it while in the Netherlands). I told them what I knew about the drug and that they should always test it. When asked "how do I do that," I was at a loss and couldn't find any useful info by searching sites that I wasn't afraid to browse. How does one get a legit testing kit without exposing themselves to risk?

skyyler 4y ago
https://rollsafe.org/mdma-test-kits/ https://rollsafe.org/mdma-test-kits/ rollsafe is a fantastic resource for harm reduction information. They have links to test kits from various retailers and instructions on how to use them. They also have a page detailing a stack of supplements you can take to allegedly reduce the neurotoxicity of MDMA. I don’t know about the veracity of that information but the test kit info is spot-on.
- wintermutestwin 4y ago
  But isn't buying these kits online essentially just a way to add yourself to a list of people who do illegal drugs? Maybe I am just overly paranoid, but I'd hate to see some college kid have their future ruined over something that shouldn't be, but is a crime.
  - Eisenstein 4y ago
    Some paranoia is rational but in this case I would judge the potential risks: (I) extremely low probability of 'future' problems involving ordering testing kits which are not themselves illegal (II) high probability of youths doing illegal drugs (III) extremely high probability of illegal drugs being impure (IV) moderate probability of impurities being dangerous
  - skyyler 4y ago
    You're already on the list of people who might do illegal drugs by asking this question. Part of the reason I linked the page I did is because they go out of their way to provide options that are LEGAL in the areas they're being shipped to.

hgsgm 4y ago

This is impractical. It's like saying "get drunk, but don't drink and drive". Once you are high, you lose your ability to make good judgements.

hermitdev 4y ago
As a former heavy drinker, drinking responsibly is more about planning ahead while you're sober so you don't have to rely upon your drunk self to make the right call. Going to a bar? Take a cab or walk _to_ the bar, so you don't even have a car to drive home. Or, stay in and drink at home with friends and plan on the friends staying over the night. You're right, though: put yourself in a situation where your drunk/high self needs to be responsible, and you're asking for trouble.
bastawhiz 4y ago
If you've already lost your ability to make those kinds of judgements, you've probably already had to much. That's not a problem you can work on in the moment, but it's something to reflect on when you're sober. If you don't know what you're putting into your body, you're always making an irresponsible choice. You're trusting someone to tell you how it will affect you, how much is safe, and what the side effects will be. Plenty of women know that trusting someone to give you the substance you think you're getting can mean getting taken advantage of. Being high doesn't implicitly eliminate all of your self control. As impractical as it might be, the smallest bit of planning and caution can save your life.