> After all, maybe you are just not a power user and don't have the same frame of reference that power users have. Maybe. Or maybe your ideal of an editor has

> After all, maybe you are just not a power user and don't have the same frame of reference that power users have. Maybe. Or maybe your ideal of an editor has nothing to do with what everyone else wants from it, including power users. > Text might be the king until then, yes, but so is C++ and the children running with AKs in Africa. Doesn't mean it's right or acceptable. I will ignore the "but the children" polemics, because it is true for C++ and that is what Rust shows. The important part is "shows" - rants do not. In the end, talking is cheap - show me a better editor than emacs first, because a promise cannot edit text. > Yes, I can see how strange it is to not see what's claimed to be a very powerful language overtake the world. I agree on that, it's a bit mysterious. Yeah, indeed, if you have a wrong premise about a language being "very powerful" per se and refuse to re-evaluate it, then it is "strange". Or you accept that the powerful parts of lisp do not matter in the end, the disadvantages are real and that it comes from an era with little collaboration and small-scale software in general. Then you shrug and move to, you know, actually delivering something. > Is it amazing? Haven't played it, don't know. Maybe? But what exactly is all that software you are expecting to begin with? Ah, the inevitable CL debate :) You can find a bunch of libraries, half-written and abandoned decades ago, but the fact is also - I have software written in rust on my mac right now, and be it the inevitable RipGrep, but I cannot remember ever using or having something installed in CL. And it will be true for most people. It is a pretty much dead language which is, on the other side, made undead by claims about some perceived PL-superiority which does not result in any significant number of useful software being written. When you stop drinking the lisp-superiority-coolaid, not much remains to see, such is my perception after some diving into CL and Clojure.