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seems not very different to today every time I see a red X over a lane on a motorway gantry (meaning: lane closed) there's people driving in it at full speed

seems not very different to today every time I see a red X over a lane on a motorway gantry (meaning: lane closed) there's people driving in it at full speed which is why "smart" motorways are so dangerous

dazc 4y ago
Smart motorways/Dumb drivers There is also a temporary speed limit that 99% of drivers simply can not obey and that is 40 MPH, it's as if there is some external force at play?
- iso1631 4y ago
  Sometimes there are speed limits - with red circles. Most obey that IME Then there's the advisory limits, without the red circuits, which tend to be ignored
  - scott_w 4y ago
    Because they’re enforced by cameras ;-) I do find it amusing watching people slam their brakes on for school safety zones… at 8pm.
ectopod 4y ago
An automatic driving ban for passing under (being generous) the second red cross on a lane would weed out the arseholes. Just enforcing the existing law would help. The cameras and anpr are in place so it should be cheap to implement. But whenever such a thing is suggested motorists claim it's a conspiracy to empty their pockets.
- dazc 4y ago
  A recent development is that the red x is now enforced with a penalty notice, alas not so severe as necessary to eliminate the behaviour entirely.
- scott_w 4y ago
  This reminds me of a tweet last year of a driver claiming a cyclist with a camera caught his dad using his phone while driving, leading to him being barred from driving and losing his job. When someone highlighted that the 6 point penalty meant this was at least his 2nd road traffic offence, he replied “yes but that’s not the point.” I honestly believe some people are incapable of learning and banning them for their offences is really the only answer to make the roads safe.
- andrepd 4y ago
  An automated driving ban for many things would considerably improve road safety.
chewbaxxa 4y ago
Problem is that most of the time the signs are wrong.

dazc 4y ago

Smart motorways/Dumb drivers There is also a temporary speed limit that 99% of drivers simply can not obey and that is 40 MPH, it's as if there is some external force at play?

iso1631 4y ago
Sometimes there are speed limits - with red circles. Most obey that IME Then there's the advisory limits, without the red circuits, which tend to be ignored
- scott_w 4y ago
  Because they’re enforced by cameras ;-) I do find it amusing watching people slam their brakes on for school safety zones… at 8pm.

ectopod 4y ago

An automatic driving ban for passing under (being generous) the second red cross on a lane would weed out the arseholes. Just enforcing the existing law would help. The cameras and anpr are in place so it should be cheap to implement. But whenever such a thing is suggested motorists claim it's a conspiracy to empty their pockets.

dazc 4y ago
A recent development is that the red x is now enforced with a penalty notice, alas not so severe as necessary to eliminate the behaviour entirely.
scott_w 4y ago
This reminds me of a tweet last year of a driver claiming a cyclist with a camera caught his dad using his phone while driving, leading to him being barred from driving and losing his job. When someone highlighted that the 6 point penalty meant this was at least his 2nd road traffic offence, he replied “yes but that’s not the point.” I honestly believe some people are incapable of learning and banning them for their offences is really the only answer to make the roads safe.
andrepd 4y ago
An automated driving ban for many things would considerably improve road safety.

chewbaxxa 4y ago

Problem is that most of the time the signs are wrong.