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That's nice to hear. Safari is my main (only, really) desktop browser. But let's consider this: "A leaked proposed EU act may force Apple to allow alternate b

That's nice to hear. Safari is my main (only, really) desktop browser. But let's consider this: "A leaked proposed EU act may force Apple to allow alternate browser rendering engines on iOS... Some experts believe that this would increase competition in the market" Whoever believes that is not an expert, and hasn't thought it through. Apple's insistence on WebKit is the only thing keeping Chrome from taking over the Web entirely. Once I realized that, I stopped whining about Apple forcing Webkit on everyone in iOS.

culi 4y ago
I definitely share the concern over Chrome's dominance, especially given the Manifest v3 crap, but it seems hard to believe they'll manage to take over the iOS ecosystem. Or even the mac ecosystem at that. As shown in this very thread, mac users really value the fact that Apple owns their whole stack and is able to do things like automatically fill in OTP codes from text messages (something that would be a huge invasion of privacy if any other company did it lol). Safari is tightly integrated with Apple's OSes and takes full advantage of that to offer things that would be impossible for other browsers to offer
- BuckyBeaver 4y ago
  I hope you're right. But remember that readers of this site are not representative of the computer-using public in general. If Mac (and eventually iOS) users have enough sites, friends, or support people from mostly-computer-illiterate service providers telling them to use Chrome, I suspect they might. Most people don't even understand iCloud, let alone notice the few Safari integrations that aren't form- or password-completion that all browsers can do. Not sure about credit-card completion though. Do other browsers offer that? I really appreciate that one in Safari.
BuckyBeaver 4y ago
Note how some Google apologists down-modded this simple observation. Pathetic.

culi 4y ago

I definitely share the concern over Chrome's dominance, especially given the Manifest v3 crap, but it seems hard to believe they'll manage to take over the iOS ecosystem. Or even the mac ecosystem at that. As shown in this very thread, mac users really value the fact that Apple owns their whole stack and is able to do things like automatically fill in OTP codes from text messages (something that would be a huge invasion of privacy if any other company did it lol). Safari is tightly integrated with Apple's OSes and takes full advantage of that to offer things that would be impossible for other browsers to offer

BuckyBeaver 4y ago
I hope you're right. But remember that readers of this site are not representative of the computer-using public in general. If Mac (and eventually iOS) users have enough sites, friends, or support people from mostly-computer-illiterate service providers telling them to use Chrome, I suspect they might. Most people don't even understand iCloud, let alone notice the few Safari integrations that aren't form- or password-completion that all browsers can do. Not sure about credit-card completion though. Do other browsers offer that? I really appreciate that one in Safari.

BuckyBeaver 4y ago

Note how some Google apologists down-modded this simple observation. Pathetic.