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I have a PiHole, but I also disable networking on any TV in the house and use an AppleTV instead of the native TV apps. LG and Samsung will eventually route aro

I have a PiHole, but I also disable networking on any TV in the house and use an AppleTV instead of the native TV apps. LG and Samsung will eventually route around ad blockers by bypassing DNS altogether.

powvans 4y ago
Eventually they’ll just route around this by connecting to your neighbor’s Ring doorbell or your Nest thermostat or whatever random internet connected thing that it can reach out and pass packets through.
- password4321 4y ago
  Amazon Sidewalk https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27182822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27182822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809 Apple FindMy Network https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27130355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27130355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26877484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26877484
- satori99 4y ago
  ...or just put a cellular modem on the BOM, and have the advertisers pay for it.
  - derwiki 4y ago
    Bingo. Don’t many new cars do this?
    - ProllyInfamous 4y ago
      This is what scared me most when Volvo switched their infotainment over to Google products (and a contributing reason why I chose not to purchase a new XC60 Recharge).
- harshalizee 4y ago
  Most likely they will start coming with their own cellular network capabilities built in, bypassing any need for a network connection. They would also be able to screen capture and analyze whatever you watch, even on external devices like apple tv and inject ads directly as an overlay. The thought just sickens me.
  - feanaro 4y ago
    It's seriously time to start thinking about building houses with a built-in Faraday cage.
    - noodleman 4y ago
      Or just don't buy an idiot box. I'd argue the TV is one of the most harmful inventions of the modern age. Sitting for hours a day is the new smoking. And the ever more hyper-partisan news rots the mind. All so you can watch the latest trite bollocks Disney et al. has just put out. Lets not even get started on how they're all streaming services now. So much content yet a fraction of the quality. I got rid of my TV when I saw a man being gruesomely killed on BBC news ~2014. It was without a doubt the smartest decision I ever made.
      - feanaro 4y ago
        Yeah, but it's not just about TVs. If cellular devices become small, cheap and ubiquitous enough, I'm fully expecting these vile corporations to start inserting them in all electronics. If there's not a large enough outrage, we can expect all devices to eventually be phoning home. A Faraday cage home seems like it would be simple enough to build and fully proof you from such idiocy forever.
  - TheHappyOddish 4y ago
    That's when people like us make a killing offering anti-spyware (desoldering) solutions to consumers!
- nmeagent 4y ago
  I imagine we'll eventually just have to start removing antennas.
- jrnichols 4y ago
  Not if the TV is plugged in via ethernet to an old linksys router that just happens to be disconnected from the internet. that's worked for me... so far..

powvans 4y ago

Eventually they’ll just route around this by connecting to your neighbor’s Ring doorbell or your Nest thermostat or whatever random internet connected thing that it can reach out and pass packets through.

password4321 4y ago
Amazon Sidewalk https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27182822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27182822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809 Apple FindMy Network https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27130355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27130355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26877484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26877484
satori99 4y ago
...or just put a cellular modem on the BOM, and have the advertisers pay for it.
- derwiki 4y ago
  Bingo. Don’t many new cars do this?
  - ProllyInfamous 4y ago
    This is what scared me most when Volvo switched their infotainment over to Google products (and a contributing reason why I chose not to purchase a new XC60 Recharge).
harshalizee 4y ago
Most likely they will start coming with their own cellular network capabilities built in, bypassing any need for a network connection. They would also be able to screen capture and analyze whatever you watch, even on external devices like apple tv and inject ads directly as an overlay. The thought just sickens me.
- feanaro 4y ago
  It's seriously time to start thinking about building houses with a built-in Faraday cage.
  - noodleman 4y ago
    Or just don't buy an idiot box. I'd argue the TV is one of the most harmful inventions of the modern age. Sitting for hours a day is the new smoking. And the ever more hyper-partisan news rots the mind. All so you can watch the latest trite bollocks Disney et al. has just put out. Lets not even get started on how they're all streaming services now. So much content yet a fraction of the quality. I got rid of my TV when I saw a man being gruesomely killed on BBC news ~2014. It was without a doubt the smartest decision I ever made.
    - feanaro 4y ago
      Yeah, but it's not just about TVs. If cellular devices become small, cheap and ubiquitous enough, I'm fully expecting these vile corporations to start inserting them in all electronics. If there's not a large enough outrage, we can expect all devices to eventually be phoning home. A Faraday cage home seems like it would be simple enough to build and fully proof you from such idiocy forever.
- TheHappyOddish 4y ago
  That's when people like us make a killing offering anti-spyware (desoldering) solutions to consumers!
nmeagent 4y ago
I imagine we'll eventually just have to start removing antennas.
jrnichols 4y ago
Not if the TV is plugged in via ethernet to an old linksys router that just happens to be disconnected from the internet. that's worked for me... so far..