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The people saying what's the point of the embargo has literally no idea what they are talking about. The current dictators in Cuba are the SAME dictators who co

The people saying what's the point of the embargo has literally no idea what they are talking about. The current dictators in Cuba are the SAME dictators who confiscated U.S citizen business, houses, industries and properties in Cuba in the 60's WITHOUT COMPENSATION and has constantly over the years treated Americans and the capitalism as the root of all evil. The cuban government is actively spying and making deals with Russia (btw the cuban government sided with Russia in the ucranian invasion) with China during Tiananmen's plaza massacre, with North Korea and a long etc. You simply do not do business with thieves. They are not a normal government, they are a mafia in control of an island and its citizens kidnaped. Lifting the embargo would be empowering them much more.

mardifoufs 4y ago
How did those US citizens acquire their property?
- SaintSeiya84 4y ago
  the same way you acquired yours...by trading, business, working, family. Or are you implying they simply stole it? I don't see you protesting in the White House asking for all Americans to return the land to the natives or do you?
Spooky23 4y ago
Yes we know. And thanks to that we have the political freak show that is Florida. Ending the embargo would let the American wheels of commerce grind the Cuban communists into the ground. New rich people can buy the old sugar mills and build resorts and setup medical tourism businesses. Giving the descendants of Cuban emigres back old sugar farms or whatever is one of the more insane policy provisions possible. Cuban power in Florida will wane as the state political balance continues its shift right and maybe we’ll do something intelligent.
- elteto 4y ago
  Just like the wheels of commerce ground China's CCP to the ground?
  - billiam 4y ago
    Not a comparable situation. At all.
  - Spooky23 4y ago
    Nixon’s rapprochement of China certainly progressed in a more positive way from the nightmare of the great cultural revolution. Especially compared to a isolated state like North Korea.
yummypaint 4y ago
It is important to not forget the historical context of what the US was doing in Cuba from 1933-1959. In short we supported a military coup and then propped up a dictator as american organized crime effectively took over administration of the island and transformed it into "America's playground" where middle aged businessmen would travel for underage sex tourism etc. Cubans were being robbed blind under the oppressive thumb of a foreign adversary and were rightly pissed off. I'm not claiming the current state of things is "good," but make no mistake it's vastly better than where the US once sought to keep them.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> The cuban government is actively ... making deals with Russia, China After you embargoed them, who are they suppose to make deals with, tooth fairy? > confiscated U.S citizen business in Cuba in the 60's WITHOUT COMPENSATION "On July 26, 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. " I am glad we finally got to the root of the issue - all about money.
mushbino 4y ago
Oh no, people lost their slave plantations and mob casinos? Once you learn about the business that were lost, it's hard to say anything other than good riddance.

mardifoufs 4y ago

How did those US citizens acquire their property?

SaintSeiya84 4y ago
the same way you acquired yours...by trading, business, working, family. Or are you implying they simply stole it? I don't see you protesting in the White House asking for all Americans to return the land to the natives or do you?

Spooky23 4y ago

Yes we know. And thanks to that we have the political freak show that is Florida. Ending the embargo would let the American wheels of commerce grind the Cuban communists into the ground. New rich people can buy the old sugar mills and build resorts and setup medical tourism businesses. Giving the descendants of Cuban emigres back old sugar farms or whatever is one of the more insane policy provisions possible. Cuban power in Florida will wane as the state political balance continues its shift right and maybe we’ll do something intelligent.

elteto 4y ago
Just like the wheels of commerce ground China's CCP to the ground?
- billiam 4y ago
  Not a comparable situation. At all.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  Nixon’s rapprochement of China certainly progressed in a more positive way from the nightmare of the great cultural revolution. Especially compared to a isolated state like North Korea.

yummypaint 4y ago

It is important to not forget the historical context of what the US was doing in Cuba from 1933-1959. In short we supported a military coup and then propped up a dictator as american organized crime effectively took over administration of the island and transformed it into "America's playground" where middle aged businessmen would travel for underage sex tourism etc. Cubans were being robbed blind under the oppressive thumb of a foreign adversary and were rightly pissed off. I'm not claiming the current state of things is "good," but make no mistake it's vastly better than where the US once sought to keep them.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> The cuban government is actively ... making deals with Russia, China After you embargoed them, who are they suppose to make deals with, tooth fairy? > confiscated U.S citizen business in Cuba in the 60's WITHOUT COMPENSATION "On July 26, 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets in the United States in retaliation for the Japanese occupation of French Indo-China. " I am glad we finally got to the root of the issue - all about money.

mushbino 4y ago

Oh no, people lost their slave plantations and mob casinos? Once you learn about the business that were lost, it's hard to say anything other than good riddance.