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But that would immediately scare away all the future potential OpenAI customers… why would OpenAI do that? If customers know that it’s possible to determine tha

But that would immediately scare away all the future potential OpenAI customers… why would OpenAI do that? If customers know that it’s possible to determine that a text came from ChatGPT with a 100% accuracy, then no one would use ChatGPT.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Why? This assumes the only market is for cheaters and those seeking ghost writers.
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  It is. The world, society, is not prepared for a scenario where computers generate human quality copy. This is hugely disruptive and will be used by workers and students to cheat their classes and do their work for them for a while. It's a disruptive technology.
- tkiolp4 4y ago
  Not the only market, but a big part of it. People who work on social media will definitely make use of ChatGPT… unless Twitter, FB, et. al start to label tweets and messages with “Written by ChatGPT”. Same goes for anything that has to do with selling written words. Not a small market precisely.
- sli 4y ago
  Because it is for ghost writers or to act as the ghost writer. What good is a text generating AI otherwise if you're not generating text to present as though it's your own? Even if the text is accurate, it's still ghost writing unless the whole point is to specifically present an AI-generated piece of text as AI-generated (aka pure novelty). AI written articles, for example, aren't doing that.
  - jhbadger 4y ago
    There are many, many uses for a text generating AI other than for nefarious purposes. It can give suggestions for things to do, it can write short stories to amuse you, it can act as an RPG game master, it can help with language learning, and so on. Assuming that it is only for cheaters is like how the music and film industry assumed that the only purpose for ripping CDs and DVDs onto your computer was to pirate them, ignoring that many people wanted to have a media server to stream their legally purchased media within their own homes.
chrsstrm 4y ago
The use of generated content for professional or academic dishonesty is a very tiny subset of all potential use cases. Neither OpenAI or schools and corporations want to face the backlash from their customers if it is discovered that they allow generated content to be used deceptively. To say that OpenAI would scare away all their potential customers if there is no chance for cheating or deception with generated content is a gross overstatement. Being able to trace the origin of content (or anything for that matter, in the virtual or real world) is a cornerstone of how the world operates and removing the anonymity of generated content is no different.

paulryanrogers 4y ago

Why? This assumes the only market is for cheaters and those seeking ghost writers.

unethical_ban 4y ago
It is. The world, society, is not prepared for a scenario where computers generate human quality copy. This is hugely disruptive and will be used by workers and students to cheat their classes and do their work for them for a while. It's a disruptive technology.
tkiolp4 4y ago
Not the only market, but a big part of it. People who work on social media will definitely make use of ChatGPT… unless Twitter, FB, et. al start to label tweets and messages with “Written by ChatGPT”. Same goes for anything that has to do with selling written words. Not a small market precisely.
sli 4y ago
Because it is for ghost writers or to act as the ghost writer. What good is a text generating AI otherwise if you're not generating text to present as though it's your own? Even if the text is accurate, it's still ghost writing unless the whole point is to specifically present an AI-generated piece of text as AI-generated (aka pure novelty). AI written articles, for example, aren't doing that.
- jhbadger 4y ago
  There are many, many uses for a text generating AI other than for nefarious purposes. It can give suggestions for things to do, it can write short stories to amuse you, it can act as an RPG game master, it can help with language learning, and so on. Assuming that it is only for cheaters is like how the music and film industry assumed that the only purpose for ripping CDs and DVDs onto your computer was to pirate them, ignoring that many people wanted to have a media server to stream their legally purchased media within their own homes.

chrsstrm 4y ago

The use of generated content for professional or academic dishonesty is a very tiny subset of all potential use cases. Neither OpenAI or schools and corporations want to face the backlash from their customers if it is discovered that they allow generated content to be used deceptively. To say that OpenAI would scare away all their potential customers if there is no chance for cheating or deception with generated content is a gross overstatement. Being able to trace the origin of content (or anything for that matter, in the virtual or real world) is a cornerstone of how the world operates and removing the anonymity of generated content is no different.