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This is what drove me away from docker in the first place - only to find there’s little alternative today. Honestly, the poor reliability of docker on any platf

This is what drove me away from docker in the first place - only to find there’s little alternative today. Honestly, the poor reliability of docker on any platform, for so many years, has tainted it in my mind and I will change in a heartbeat if something better comes along.

chillfox 4y ago
Interesting... My experience has been pretty much exactly the opposite, Docker just works flawlessly and it's the alternatives like podman and systemd that's caused me headaches and countless hours of wasted time.
- doctor_eval 4y ago
  I did hit some kind of networking bug on a Linux server recently (in the past 2 weeks) which required a restart of the Docker daemon, and that is my classic personal experience. We went all-in on Docker Swarm several years ago, and we ended up having to do full server reboots on what seemed like a weekly basis. And I know I'm not alone in having loads of problems on MacOS - although I must admit it seems to have been a lot better recently.
  - mmcnl 4y ago
    Docker Swarm is not Docker, it are two separate products. The industry has moved to Kubernetes anyways.
- doublepg23 4y ago
  I gave podman weeks of effort trying to get its “killer feature” to work properly (rootless containers). I couldn’t even justify the time for a hobby project. Instead, I just installed Docker and went on my way. IMO they need to improve documentation and drop the facade that it’s 1:1 Docker.
  - chillfox 4y ago
    Yep, I also spent a huge amount of time trying to get podman rootless containers working. It felt like what fusion progresses looks like, forever “just around the corner”, so I also decided to just stick with docker.
v3ss0n 4y ago
That's strange, my developers run docker on quite old laptops and they are doing fine. Not mac's though, we running Manjaro Linux and no impact in performance. But we uses docker engine, not desktop. I had seen docker desktop runs in Qemu VM on non-linux os. That might be the problem and defeating the purpose of using containers at all.
mmcnl 4y ago
What do you mean? In my experience it's been super reliable for years and it never surprises me.

chillfox 4y ago

Interesting... My experience has been pretty much exactly the opposite, Docker just works flawlessly and it's the alternatives like podman and systemd that's caused me headaches and countless hours of wasted time.

doctor_eval 4y ago
I did hit some kind of networking bug on a Linux server recently (in the past 2 weeks) which required a restart of the Docker daemon, and that is my classic personal experience. We went all-in on Docker Swarm several years ago, and we ended up having to do full server reboots on what seemed like a weekly basis. And I know I'm not alone in having loads of problems on MacOS - although I must admit it seems to have been a lot better recently.
- mmcnl 4y ago
  Docker Swarm is not Docker, it are two separate products. The industry has moved to Kubernetes anyways.
doublepg23 4y ago
I gave podman weeks of effort trying to get its “killer feature” to work properly (rootless containers). I couldn’t even justify the time for a hobby project. Instead, I just installed Docker and went on my way. IMO they need to improve documentation and drop the facade that it’s 1:1 Docker.
- chillfox 4y ago
  Yep, I also spent a huge amount of time trying to get podman rootless containers working. It felt like what fusion progresses looks like, forever “just around the corner”, so I also decided to just stick with docker.

v3ss0n 4y ago

That's strange, my developers run docker on quite old laptops and they are doing fine. Not mac's though, we running Manjaro Linux and no impact in performance. But we uses docker engine, not desktop. I had seen docker desktop runs in Qemu VM on non-linux os. That might be the problem and defeating the purpose of using containers at all.

mmcnl 4y ago

What do you mean? In my experience it's been super reliable for years and it never surprises me.