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We need a better and cleaner power grid. Otherwise, we're replacing our natural gas appliances with high-wattage electric ones, whose power comes from a coal-fi

We need a better and cleaner power grid. Otherwise, we're replacing our natural gas appliances with high-wattage electric ones, whose power comes from a coal-fired power plant.

PrivateButts 4y ago
That's the plan, on paper at least. By 2030 they want Upstate to be almost entirely Hydro and Nuclear. Downstate will follow by 2040.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
There is no coal fired generation in NY state [1]. Coal is rapidly being retired out of the US generator fleet [2]. Still better to burn natural gas in a combined cycle gas turbine and ship the electrons than ship the gas to homes through a vast, hard to monitor maintain gas pipeline network [3] [4]. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US-NY-NYIS https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US-NY-NYIS [2] https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=54559 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=54559 > Due to continued competition from natural gas and renewable resources, 23% of the 200,568 megawatts (MW) of coal-fired capacity currently operating in the United States has reported plans to retire by the end of 2029, according to our Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory. Between 2012 and 2021, an average of 9,450 MW of U.S. coal-fired capacity was retired each year. In 2022, U.S. coal retirements will total 11,778 MW if the remaining retirements reported to us proceed as scheduled. [3] https://archive.ph/2022.06.23-093026/https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/new-research-reveals-us-gas-pipeline-leaks-have-not-improved-2022-06-23/ https://archive.ph/2022.06.23-093026/https://www.reuters.com... (“New research reveals U.S. gas pipeline leaks have not improved”) [4] https://pirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NHP-NHE-FG-Methane-Gas-Leaks-Jun22-screen.pdf https://pirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NHP-NHE-FG-Metha... > On average, a major new gas leak incident is reported to the federal government every 40 hours, while more minor leaks can go undetected and unrepaired for years. The report, which shows that the incidence of major pipeline leaks or explosions has not decreased over the last decade, makes the case that the U.S. should move away from the widespread use of natural gas in homes and businesses toward electrification.
floxy 4y ago
Here is a site showing the source of electrical generation for each state: https://nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-generation-fuel-shares https://nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-gener... ...if you live in Wyoming, yes, your electricity is coming from coal (73%). If you are in Washington state, no so much (2.9%).
- uSoldering 4y ago
  The interesting part of that link is that NY generates 45.6% of it's power through natural gas.

We need a better and cleaner power grid. Otherwise, we're replacing our natural gas appliances with high-wattage electric ones, whose power comes from a coal-fired power plant.

PrivateButts 4y ago

That's the plan, on paper at least. By 2030 they want Upstate to be almost entirely Hydro and Nuclear. Downstate will follow by 2040.

toomuchtodo 4y ago

There is no coal fired generation in NY state [1]. Coal is rapidly being retired out of the US generator fleet [2]. Still better to burn natural gas in a combined cycle gas turbine and ship the electrons than ship the gas to homes through a vast, hard to monitor maintain gas pipeline network [3] [4]. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US-NY-NYIS https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US-NY-NYIS [2] https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=54559 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=54559 > Due to continued competition from natural gas and renewable resources, 23% of the 200,568 megawatts (MW) of coal-fired capacity currently operating in the United States has reported plans to retire by the end of 2029, according to our Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory. Between 2012 and 2021, an average of 9,450 MW of U.S. coal-fired capacity was retired each year. In 2022, U.S. coal retirements will total 11,778 MW if the remaining retirements reported to us proceed as scheduled. [3] https://archive.ph/2022.06.23-093026/https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/new-research-reveals-us-gas-pipeline-leaks-have-not-improved-2022-06-23/ https://archive.ph/2022.06.23-093026/https://www.reuters.com... (“New research reveals U.S. gas pipeline leaks have not improved”) [4] https://pirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NHP-NHE-FG-Methane-Gas-Leaks-Jun22-screen.pdf https://pirg.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NHP-NHE-FG-Metha... > On average, a major new gas leak incident is reported to the federal government every 40 hours, while more minor leaks can go undetected and unrepaired for years. The report, which shows that the incidence of major pipeline leaks or explosions has not decreased over the last decade, makes the case that the U.S. should move away from the widespread use of natural gas in homes and businesses toward electrification.

floxy 4y ago

Here is a site showing the source of electrical generation for each state: https://nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-generation-fuel-shares https://nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-gener... ...if you live in Wyoming, yes, your electricity is coming from coal (73%). If you are in Washington state, no so much (2.9%).

uSoldering 4y ago
The interesting part of that link is that NY generates 45.6% of it's power through natural gas.