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>These days, if you want to just "learn for learning's sake", or for self improvement, there are tons of free and cheap ways to get a good education I agree, b

>These days, if you want to just "learn for learning's sake", or for self improvement, there are tons of free and cheap ways to get a good education I agree, but you won't have a sheet of paper proving it. It's like that infamous scene from Good Will Hunting. Question is whether you want an easy way to PROVE you're educated. Which is what a license, certificate or diploma grants you.

fooqux 4y ago
The person you replied to already covers that in the following sentences. Why else would you need to prove your education except for work?
- haswell 4y ago
  In a hypothetical post-work era where people no longer build their reputation via career, it’s not hard to imagine group dynamics emerging such that education level is no longer a means to an end, but an end unto itself. Essentially a new way to establish hierarchies.
  - fooqux 4y ago
    Sure... if we ever get there, I could potentially see that. But we're nowhere close to that. Also, if it's being used to establish hierarchies, I could still see that proof being important.
    - haswell 4y ago
      Maybe I misread your comment. All of this thread is speculative, including the speculation that degrees will become less and less relevant. Getting “there” doesn’t happen overnight, but the point is that we are already heading there, and to the question “why get a degree if not for work”, I presented a potential future option. > I could still see that proof being important. This is key to the point I was trying to make. Essentially that the purpose of education may change over time, but the value of gaining an education will still be there in one form or another.
idontpost 4y ago
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hooande 4y ago
um. if you're just learning for learning's sake... why do you need to prove that to anyone?
- haswell 4y ago
  For the same reason people care about official records when they participate in/compete in many activities, e.g. marathon runners care about their official run times, body builders the weight they are capable of lifting, chess players their ratings, video gamers their win/loss ratio, etc. If learning is “merely” a diversion, I don’t see why people would think about it any differently. Whether or not it still makes sense for that proof to carry a six figure price tag is a separate conversation.

fooqux 4y ago

The person you replied to already covers that in the following sentences. Why else would you need to prove your education except for work?

haswell 4y ago
In a hypothetical post-work era where people no longer build their reputation via career, it’s not hard to imagine group dynamics emerging such that education level is no longer a means to an end, but an end unto itself. Essentially a new way to establish hierarchies.
- fooqux 4y ago
  Sure... if we ever get there, I could potentially see that. But we're nowhere close to that. Also, if it's being used to establish hierarchies, I could still see that proof being important.
  - haswell 4y ago
    Maybe I misread your comment. All of this thread is speculative, including the speculation that degrees will become less and less relevant. Getting “there” doesn’t happen overnight, but the point is that we are already heading there, and to the question “why get a degree if not for work”, I presented a potential future option. > I could still see that proof being important. This is key to the point I was trying to make. Essentially that the purpose of education may change over time, but the value of gaining an education will still be there in one form or another.

idontpost 4y ago

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hooande 4y ago

um. if you're just learning for learning's sake... why do you need to prove that to anyone?

haswell 4y ago
For the same reason people care about official records when they participate in/compete in many activities, e.g. marathon runners care about their official run times, body builders the weight they are capable of lifting, chess players their ratings, video gamers their win/loss ratio, etc. If learning is “merely” a diversion, I don’t see why people would think about it any differently. Whether or not it still makes sense for that proof to carry a six figure price tag is a separate conversation.